Originally posted by Witness2008
they do not want their wives and daughters raped while in the custody of chinese military.

Of please



How about the one where Hu Jintao drinks from skulls of Tibetan babies. Seriously you need to get off those fetish websites

Originally posted by Witness2008
The internet is loaded with accounts of the rape of Tibetan women and they come from various news sources. Did I touch a sore spot in you somewhere?

Firstly your link doesn't work

Loaded with "claims" not "accounts". And the site you use is quoting The tibetan independence movement, bias much.....?

The sixteen point agreement that Moa tried to force on the Dalai Lama was rejected and to this day remains unsigned.

You mean the 17 Point Agreement. Which has been signed and lasted until 1959 when the Chinese implemented social reforms which took the power away from the lamas and freed the majority of the Tibetan people from slavery.

ROFL, 16 point agreement

How does the link you provided speak to anything other than what I am saying. Tibet wants their culture, religious freedom, their environment back.

You said independence, they said autonomy. Wanting the Chinese out is NOT autonomy

Answer To An Empire:

• Get Out
  
• Theft Is Theft
  
• Its Not Yours
  
• Go Home
  

(Seen on a wall in Lhasa).


I, for one, will NOT be going to these Olympics.

The situation in Tibet is atrocious. The Chinese occupied that land illegally and now since nobody has bothered to evict them, they claim to own it and its people. The treaty signed between the Tibetan government and the Chinese was as fair as the Treaty of versailles. Singed under the gun.

The total destruction and rampage by the Communists in Tibet is inexcusable. Not only can it be termed as genocide but nothing short of wiping out the Tibetan civilization.

As for the social problems under the Lama's the people never did what they are doing now to Communist rule to the reign under the Dalai Lama. Who is worse is clear to see!

why are they HAN Chinese there anyway?? That is not their country or their land. They are there to dilute the claims by the indigenous Tibetans, nothing more and nothing less. Typical tools used for enslaving a people, forced eviction and re population. The fact that China even imagines itself to be civilized country is ludicrous when they dont even allow international journalists to report what the actual state of affairs is in Tibet. They place their "image" above the fate of human beings. It only makes them loose face twice as fast now.

Originally posted by Witness2008
Your external source was written by Revolutionary worker #944. Chinese propoganda.

ROFL,

Chinese propaganda, yeah right. It wasn't written by a Chinese person


So are you denying their sources or evidence?

Sources:
# The Anguish of Tibet, ed. Petra Kelly, Gert Bastian and Pat Aeillo, Parallax Press, Berkeley, 1991. A collection of pro-lamaist essays.
# Avedon, John F. "In Exile from the Land of Snows," in The Anguish of Tibet. Avedon, an author and Newsweekjournalist, is a prominent apologist for lamaism.
# Dalai Lama, Freedom in Exile--The Autobiography of the Dalai Lama, Harper Collins, N.Y., 1990.
# Grunfeld, A. Tom, The Making of Modern Tibet, Zed Books, 1987.
# Grunfeld, A. Tom, "Tibet: Myths and Realities," New China, Fall 1975.
# Gyaltag, Gyaltsen, "An Historical Overview," an essay published in The Anguish of Tibet. Gyaltsen Gyaltag is a representative of the Dalai Lama in Europe.
# Han Suyin; Lhasa, the Open City--A Journey to Tibet, Putnam, 1977.
# Hicks, Roger, Hidden Tibet--The Land and Its People, Element Books, Dorset, 1988.
# China Reconstructs, "Tibet--From Serfdom to Socialism," March 1976.
# Peking Review, "Tibet's Big Leap--No Return to the Old System," July 4, 1975.

The chinese are raping women

Yet you cant come up with any source to back that up

Linking to a womens rights site. tsk tsk. Read women rights sites about America or any other country if you think its only inclusive to China

dumping pollutants into rivers and streams, deforesting and defacing Tibets natural beauty

Globalisation ... EVERY country experiences it

Originally posted by IAF101
The treaty signed between the Tibetan government and the Chinese was as fair as the Treaty of versailles. Singed under the gun.

Like every other treaty

Not only can it be termed as genocide but nothing short of wiping out the Tibetan civilization.

Which have happened to grow from 2 million to 5 million

As for the social problems under the Lama's the people never did what they are doing now to Communist rule to the reign under the Dalai Lama. Who is worse is clear to see!

What is worse. American Slavery or the ghetto

why are they HAN Chinese there anyway??

Why are Americans there anyway, Why are Australians there anyway. Why are Russians in the Far east rr the Dutch in South Africa

Double standards

Originally posted by chinawhite

Originally posted by IAF101
The treaty signed between the Tibetan government and the Chinese was as fair as the Treaty of versailles. Singed under the gun.

Like every other treaty

Like every "imposed" treaty you mean.

Originally posted by chinawhite

Not only can it be termed as genocide but nothing short of wiping out the Tibetan civilization.

Which have happened to grow from 2 million to 5 million

Compared to the HAN Chinese who have gone from ZERO to many millions.

Originally posted by chinawhite

As for the social problems under the Lama's the people never did what they are doing now to Communist rule to the reign under the Dalai Lama. Who is worse is clear to see!

What is worse. American Slavery or the ghetto

Chinese Slavery.

Originally posted by chinawhite

why are they HAN Chinese there anyway??

Why are Americans there anyway, Why are Australians there anyway. Why are Russians in the Far east rr the Dutch in South Africa

Double standards

Pathetic excuse. Two wrongs dont make a right. Other peoples crimes cannot be used to justify your own.

Besides the Americans and the Australians didnt invade their countries, it was the British who set up colonies there and the colonists who became free.

Originally posted by chinawhite

Originally posted by iammonkey
which has scarred its image of national harmony

According to the Dalai's own thought they have

Accept Tibet as part of China: Dalai Lama

Doesnt answer the accusation at all.

They want more autonomy, it has nothing to do with if there is harmony or not.

Just because people were told not to protest against China by the Dalai Lama doesnt mean that they are going to stop. Just like they are doing now.

Originally posted by IAF101
Like every "imposed" treaty you mean.

Which treaty wasn't imposed

Compared to the HAN Chinese who have gone from ZERO to many millions.

Proof. Tibet CANNOT support 5 million Tibetans and "many million Chinese".

Chinese Slavery.

Pathetic, accusing someone else of acts which your country has committed itself. Thats a Insult to every black American whos family was enslaved

Its comparing the East Germans to the Holocaust in their levels of suffering

Besides the Americans and the Australians didnt invade their countries, it was the British who set up colonies there and the colonists who became free.

LOL. Pathetic double standards

So it was the British who killed the Native Americans beyond the Appalachian Mountains ?. Why dont you fix your wrong and this extreme hatred you have for injustice and surrender your house to them.

Or why DOnt the Russians, Australis, Dutch, French and other former imperial countries surrender their land.

Originally posted by IAF101
Doesnt answer the accusation at all.

They are protesting FOR INDEPENDENCE NOT AUTONOMY which is against NATIONAL HARMONY.

Dont confuse what the Dalai Lama said and what the activist are saying