Is dodging all you can do Chinawhite (and other Chinese)?
Your sole means of justification for Beijing's policies in Tibet are to compare the situation with the past in other nations and cast aspersions on
the character of the Dalai Lama.
Originally posted by chinawhite
those places have citizenship in those places with all the benefits that said citizenship brings
Which explains there lack of education, abuse of alcohol, poor health and standard of living?
First, a dodge. Quick, let's get this off-topic by focussing on the current situation of a minority of Australian citizens. No, what explains those
things are roughly 180 years of "cultural genocide" or other "genocidal acts". Acts we have now apologised for. Acts we have been working to
overcome and undo for around thrity years. Thirty years to undo 180 years work? Unlikely. But at least we are doing something.
Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV
The Dalai Lama used the words "cultural genocide".
Define what your meaning of "cultural genocide" means
The destruction through deliberate, overt acts or deliberate, covert acts of a cultural identity, a people or their culture. "Cultural genocide"
includes things such as "ethnic cleansing" or deliberate, forced re-education or mis-education. "Cultural genocide" includes the deliberate,
methodical and slow creation of a foreign majority in occupied lands.
How long until Beijing holds a referendum in Tibet asking whether "Tibetans" want to be independent or a natural, contiguous part of the PRC and
includes ethnic-Han immigrants in its definition of "Tibetan"?
The Tibetans enjoy more cultural freedom than the aboriginals have in Australia.
Really, tribal Tibetans can enforce traditional laws?
Tibetan monasteries and their environs are protected from "development"?
What exactly are you saying what the Tibetans can't do?.What culture they had died with the abuse of alcohol and educational policy. The
Native Americans have practically lost all their cultural values and live on casinos and their ritual dances are more to do with drawing in money than
actually living traditionally. Spend a few hours dancing then retreat back to the BMW
Ah, now who's generalising? I hope you've actually been there.
You spent years and years destroying traditional aboriginal society and then show us "PR" aboriginal dances.
I, personally, have spent years and years living in Central Australia where my mother is a nurse working in clinics devoted solely to the health of
Aboriginal people. I, personally, have spent years and years working with anti-petrol sniffing campaigns. I, personally, have spent years and years
working with Homelands organisations to help Aborigines gain some independence from CDEP.
However, I personally have already admitted my nation's guilt in the crimes you are desparate to accuse us of. See, I already admitted
national/societal guilt. Your charges are meaningless.
The government plans to forcefully take children into "foster" care for their protection there latest acts reminiscent of the stolen
a) Wrong. Do some research.
b) That policy was created by Little Johnny Wayward, who I have voted against in every election in which he stood. I have also already refused to give
blanket public support to him or his government and its policies. Which is exactly what the Chinese community in ATS refuses to do: criticise
One could argue that development is the one which destroyed culture
No, one couldn't. That development is younger than my children. Mabo is already a decade and a half old.
as the culmination of three decades of race relations which included land rights and High Court judgements, a national, formal apology
for all of the acts which could come under the heading of "Genocidal Acts"
Does that somehow excuse what we did. Does it bring back their traditions?.
No. It does't. I have already said that. What it does is show that we recognise we were wrong.
What it does is give us the moral high ground to criticise Chinese policies in Tibet, Chinese presence in Tibet.
Your attempts to throw mud at the West in the hope it will stick are doomed to fail precisely because we made that apology.
wrong. China IS
And that's the difference that nullifies your "many countries have committed human rights violations" justification.
Regardless of the unbelievable patheticness of the mere idea of even attempting to use such an argument to justify such actions. Just how venal are
you willing to be?
Many people have committed murder. It doesn't justify another person doing it.
Why haven't you got the balls to criticise "your" government? You see "us" criticising "our" governments all the time.
John Howard lied about Children Overboard.
The Tampa Incident was stage-managed B.S.
The Pacific Solution was wrong.
"Sorry" should have been said ten years ago.
Camp X-ray is the height (or depth) of hypocrisy.
Camp X-ray is a human rights violation.
Gough Whitlam never should have recognised Indonesia's claim over East Timor.
Waterboarding is torture.