reply to post by NewWorldOver
I have been trying to think of a way to communicate with you so we could connect, and not just see each other as "the other side".
For me, just me and my opinion
, I don't see my defense of the military as "pro-government". I am quite the opposite. I am as far from
pro-government as you can get - truly. I am
This is an important, critical distinction. I spent six years in the U.S. military as a Crew Chief on Blackhawks. Alpha models at first, and later
Limas. I flew hundreds of hours in very close, personal proximity to people from all over the country. I personally knew and worked with all races,
ethnicities, creeds, prior socio-economic situations, religious beliefs (yes Muslims) and any other permutation I may have forgotten.
There was no grand, over-riding “hive mind” of thought. The opinions concerning politics, religion, world events and local events were varied and
robust. In the military you spend a lot of time doing – frankly – nothing. The common catch phrase was “hurry up and wait”. Anyone who has
served, in any military, knows this saying. Meaning; we had a lot of time to sit, talk, share ideas, argue, debate, talk about women, our families,
aspirations, dreams, etc. I never, ever, met someone who I would describe as wanting to hurt an innocent. I never, honestly, met a single solider who
wanted to deploy in the hopes of killing someone. The soldiers I knew were every day people who chose to join for a variety of reasons. It might have
been college education money, a desire to give something back to their country, someone looking for direction, a life-long desire to serve in the
military, or a combination of all of the above. The people I served with were good, honest, decent people. Not chimps. Not blood thirsty killers. Not
war mongers. Not people who reviled in the idea they might be put in a situation where they are forced into the horrible decision of risking their
life in a combat zone where every move, every tactical decision, every split-second life-or-death judgment made on the ground, in the moment would be
nit picked, discussed, judged and the worst immediately thought of. The soldiers I served with were mothers, fathers, daughters and sons. They had
families they loved and who loved them. They never, ever would relish or hope for the kind of situation where they may be forced to shoot a
. Someone’s daughter.
Can you step back and realize that the soldier who shot this child (if it happened at all) will forever be haunted by his or her decision? Do you
realize no solider relishes the idea of killing an innocent? What kind of situation would exist that would make shooting a child the right choice? Can
you imagine a scenario where that might be a good choice? I know you can’t but in war, sometimes it is the right choice. The enemy has used women,
children, the elderly and those mentally retarded as fighting tools. You may not like to believe that, but it’s true. It’s easy to sit behind a
computer screen and decry the actions of those put in situations that require them to make a decision that none of us would want to face. I know from
your position, safe at home, with time to dissect, analyze, second-guess, re-think, look at all angles from the comfort of your home you probably
can’t think of a single reason why a solider would shoot a little girl. You would also be wrong.
You’re wrong because your belief comes from a place where you cant imagine yourself ever doing something like that. Here’s the thing: you
absolutely would. Placed in that situation, far from home, family, loved ones, your life aspirations, devoid of sleep for days at the time, in an
environment in which you or your friends could die at any moment from any number of horrible causes, in a horrible, painful fashion, exhausted beyond
a level you can imagine as you read this, facing an enemy that does not
make moral distinctions between innocents and combatants, is willing to
blow their own children up and are faced with a split second decision where your very own life and the life of your friends is literally depending on
you to make the right assessment………you would have shot her too. You’ll get very angry at me for saying that but, it’s absolutely true. The
bottom line: you’re not going to die, or allow your buddies to die when push comes to shove.
I can imagine, easily, a scenario where this little girl was
being used as a look out, or a spotter. It absolutely happens. You have the luxury
of time, space, perspective, hind-sight and safety. Soldiers do not. If you’re wrong, you can take another sip of your coffee and reflect. If
soldiers are wrong, when faced with a situation like this, they die.
People with your political thinking tend to group-think the military. That is, because of a lack of understanding or personal experience, you view the
military as jack-booted thugs who autonomously carry out any order. My opinion is you see them as a mindless tool of political parties. You tend to
paint the military with a very wide, very incorrect brush.
Therein lies the rub.
I have no quibble with your personal, political beliefs. Really. I can think of no nice, un-confrontational way to say the following: I do have a
real, personal issue with you when you make wide-sweeping judgments on things you, basically, have no understanding of. IMO, that is where you’re
finding rapid, strong condemnation from other posters on subjects like this. Your political beliefs, and many others like you, are so hard over that
you make vast, incorrect generalizations about people that you have an axe to grind with.
I have so much to say and I am not at all trying to attack you, although I am fairly confident that’s exactly what you’ll see out of my post.
I’m trying to give you a fresh perspective and help you realize there may be other possibilities.
[edit on 15-3-2008 by SlightlyAbovePar]