How would a war with China be fought?, page 5

Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by FredT

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i can see china hitting running reactors tbh rendering vast area`s of the US similar to alot of the ukraine thank to the events at prypryat

I assume you mean with thier ICBM's?

If they target reactors on the west coast:

Columbia Generating Station, WA
San Onofre, Southern California

You have two. You still would not get the same effect as the cities I listed above in terms of casulties.

4 of the targets I listed have sig. military infrastructures to hit.

Hawaii home fo the Pacific Fleet
San Francisco bay Area: Silicoln Valley and Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Labs.
San Diego: USN fleet instalation
Seatle/Bremington: home to the pacific SSBN's

russia would not get involved - they don`t like either side , and are certainly not china`s best buddy - they have some of there own nukes aimed there - but they would defend there own interest -

Sorry i was not suggesting outright help, but rather NOT helping China by suppling oil after they get blockaded. If they do then China will have alot of oil and The US will not interdict supplies comming in from Russia (or at least while they are on Russian soil)

hmmm CBG`s - well all of the pacfic forces would be needed around china - thats the 6 carrier groups in the pacific (3rd and 7th fleet).

No doubt the whole fleet would be needed.

btw , i do`t think its been covered - but resupply for the ships at sea- the arleigh burkes are all nice and that - but 2 or 3 rapid air attacks and the ammo bunkers will be empty - then what?

I agree that supply and logistics would always be an issue with the US fighting a war accross the Pacific. However, i doubt also that the USN would trail thier coats super close to the chinese mainland thus reducing the number of missiles, and aircraft that could strike them, thus reducing the amount of expendatures.

Also the USAF would also provide some cover with BARCAPS, and B-52's and B-1 launching harpoons and CALCMS against costal airfields and defence instalations.

reply to post by rogue1

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Great!! Another chinese telling Americans how it all works. The cheap S$%# that comes from china ends up in landfills over here. Computer technology was handed to the chinese via this country. I'm pretty sure we could figure it out without the chinese.

reply to post by rogue1

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I'm not entirely sure what Americans YOU have been talking to but I can assure you that your image of the American is not the norm. I live in the city of Chicago where Wal-Mart is actually banned due to the big box ordinance and I get by just fine at my local corner shop. Not to mention that the education level of those around me is excellent, my father has a doctorate in neuroscience and my mother has one in psychology. I myself am in high school but I'm aiming for a similar level. Just about everyone else I know happens to have the same education/educational goals, so I don't know how you are generalizing America in the way that you are. Not everyone is a junkie sitting back listening to korn while stuffing themselves with mcdonalds, in fact I am sitting here listening to one of Wagner's operas and chomping on a nice golden delicious apple.

I understand your frustration with the ignorance that slithers through this forum but countering ignorance with more ignorance makes not an ingnorance free discussion, it makes a mess.

reply to post by FredT

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not imediate casualties , but hitting to , working nuclear reactors would have a greater long term effect than hitting a city

th rest wasn`t directly meant for you , more of a comment in genral as more than a few posters seem to think that russia would assist china

but

USAF barcaps - they would be on the legs to be in tange from anywhere that would offer assistance - japan is right in harms way so they would stay out - and going to taiwan? theres alot of ordnance pointed that way so it would be hazardous; you can`t fly barcaps from guam and diego garcia - so that asks - would the US actually ask permission to fly from japan? or would japan ask the USA to leave?

reply to post by WestPoint23

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A bigger question is would US carry out a retaliatory strike? Maybe not, especially if China only set off a nuke in the sky to EMP US and Japan assets and prevent aircraft from taking off for a short period of time. Would US send their ICBMs to China knowing China will retaliate (Yes, China's DF-41 ICBM has a range of 12,000km -- built in the 90s)? I doubt it. US people wouldn't say, "Lets sacrifice America's West Coast to liberate Taiwan." The battle would quickly change to the diplomatic tables and Taiwan would now be back under China control.

Both Japan and South Korea may retaliate. But, like US, would both countries see the fight worth it? Don't forget North Korea may be thrown into the mix.

reply to post by WestPoint23

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Yes, WestPoint. Your points are all valid and have the highest percentage of chance to happen in this forum's scenario. But, many variables will come to play when hostilities do occur.

When China invades Taiwan, they may explode a nuclear weapon in the air if it guarantees them a victory. It is just a theoretical scencario. Chinese military leaders may gamble thinking the US would not want to sacrifice its West Coast for a tiny nation island. And, I am sure that is how the Dragon's Lair got formed in someone's head.

China will probably save its needs to invade Taiwan when they finally have enough nuclear arsenal make US think twice. Say two ICBMs for each US major city. The pace China is growing and developing far exceeds US. They are catching up quickly.

reply to post by WestPoint23

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And that is true, WestPoint. Relationships are a two-way street. I just hope sane minds will stay in power and no fanatics take control of either nuclear power.

I predict China's technology will have caught up to the US in less than a generation. Who knows within 20 years China may finally be able to deploy carrier groups. Things could get very interesting. We could have a 2nd Cold War front with China in the Pacific, Indian Ocean and who know where else China would like to spread their influence.

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