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reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 04:57 AM by HooHaa
I agree with the above poster. They tar and feather the U.S military men and women before they even have confirmation. The Islamic radicals create the situation by using women, children and the handicap to carry out there bombing missions. This war theater has to be one of the most stressfull battlefields ever. You have urban fighting with no way of identifing your enemy. They have booby traps every where you go. They use every diabolical strategy and plan they can come up with. Just so they can kill as many Amricans and allied forces they can.
Having never served in the military myself its hard to get my mind around what our soldiers are going through. What a mind job they have to deal with on a daily bases. Then you get the people on this site who never served them selves trashing our "evil" soldiers and they havent a clue. Its easy telling someone else how to fight from ring side. How many live rounds, IDE's and friends do our armed men and women have to go through before they get jumpy and make a mistake?
Its like that soldier who shot the Iraqi in the mosque who was playing dead. What an out crying. It didnt matter that the guy was hiding in the one place we werent suppose to shoot into at the time. It didnt matter that the same guy was shooting rpg's at them, nor did it matter that he could have been wired to detonate when our guys entered. I say that the soldier had to make a quick jugdement call and did what was right at the time.
War is hell and alot of atrcities take place when you are under that much stress. Give our soldiers break.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:10 AM by smans
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by palehorse23


Sounds justified to me..
Terrible that it happened, but its war.. and in war terrible things happen. I honestly doubt she was "waving" but perhaps another hand signal, or acting in an odd manor.. it must have been something to convince a soldier to kill an obviously young girl..
(it is not unheard of for kids to be used to plant bombs, be suicide bombers, signal attacks, cause a distraction for an attack)


I am going to abide by the rules of the forum and be quite civil.
One must realise that written text can always be misinterpreted, I am not angry and please read my post in a subtle calm tone, as that objectively and calmly. The questions asked are just that, questions, not accusations.

It is not justified, she was a child.
It is not war, it is an illegal occupation. “In the beloved Iraq, the bloodshed is continuing under an illegal foreign occupation and detestable sectarianism.” Saudi King

She was waving. Waving is a single, in many countries, it means hello. A wave is a gesture in which the hand is raised and moved back and forth, as a greeting or sign of departure. The orientation of the hand varies by culture and situation. In many cultures, the palm is oriented toward the recipient of the wave.
In Chinese culture, orienting the hand palm-down and waving it up and down signifies "come here", rather than a greeting.

If she was had signaled an attack, then shoot the attackers, not the waver. The waver has already signaled, was their an attack wave? No, it appears not, so the killing in this case does not appear to be justified.

If I was an Iraqi and live in your neighbourhood, and because it is war as you say, would it be justified for me to kill your children on the street when I see them wave? Definitely not. So why is it acceptable there?

Here is an idea: Withdraw.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:13 AM by pepsi78
reply to post by smans


They probaly shoot her just for fun.
it's not he first time this happens.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:16 AM by SilentShadow
Just found an article that may shed some different light onto the already heavily discussed thread.

"Coalition forces fired a warning shot into a berm (small defensive wall) near a suspicious woman who appeared to be signaling to someone while the soldiers were in the area," a statement said.

"A young girl was found behind the berm suffering from a gunshot wound."

It said soldiers rendered immediate medical attention but the girl died on her way to hospital.

www.news.com.au...


another source:

Leighton said preliminary reports indicated that soldiers didn't believe the woman posed a threat of being a bomber. Rather "they were afraid she was signaling to someone that the convoy was going by."

In its statement, the military said that "coalition forces fired a warning shot into a berm near a suspicious woman who appeared to be signaling to someone while the soldiers were in the area. A young girl was found behind the berm suffering from a gunshot wound."

Roadside bombs have been the biggest killer of American troops in Iraq.

news.yahoo.com...;_ylt=ArmZAprxWTT32kqTex38cmxvaA8F


This sheds alot more light on the matter, if this source is to be believed then it was just an accident and they didn't shoot AT the girl by gave a warning shot to a woman and the bullet went through a wall and accidentally killed a girl behind it.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:29 AM by smans
Originally posted by pepsi78
reply to post by smans


They probaly shoot her just for fun.
it's not he first time this happens.




:'(



reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:43 AM by Harlequin
the box of truth - a bullet will stop after a 6 inches when fired into sand

www.theboxotruth.com...

nothing they fired got through 6 inches of sand - and that inclucdes solid 12 guage and 5.56mm from an AR-15

so this `berm` that was fired through , how big was it

sorry , sound bollocks to me, case proven they shot her.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 09:48 AM by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by SilentShadow


That really sounds like an ass-cover to me. "Oh, well, there was this woman, see, and she was, you know, doing something. So we shot at her. And you know, well, there was like, this girl right behind where we shot..."

If the woman was signaling, then whoever she was signaling already had teh freaking signal. How complex can signaling someone to trigger a bomb be? A simple thumbs-up?

But I'm sure the little girl was a terrible person and deserved to die anyway, right guys? She probably would have grown up to be a Muslim or an Arab or something else awful.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 09:53 AM by lunchboxjunkie
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by SilentShadow


But I'm sure the little girl was a terrible person and deserved to die anyway, right guys? She probably would have grown up to be a Muslim or an Arab or something else awful.


Glad you see it our way.





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