'I'm a Human Being', Young Guantanamo Prisoner Says

'I'm a Human Being', Young Guantanamo Prisoner Says

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This kid doesn't even have links to 'Al Qaeda'. What he most likely represents is the growing number of Iraqi civilians who are tired of our occupation of their country, and who have to sit back and watch it continue, even though tens of thousands of their family members were decimated in the process. This whole invasion stinks. We need to get out of there and leave these people alone.

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'I'm a Human Being', Young Guantanomo Prisoner Says.

'You're an enemy combatant,' U.S. Government Says.

'This is tyranny!' Sensible U.S. Public Says.

'Shut yer moufs these are Al QEIDERS!' Squawks the Indoctrinated American Parrot Who Knows Nothing Beyond What He Sees On T.V.


On and on and on.

The sensible people are already demanding release of innocent prisoners in the war on terror.... but we have to deal with a whole sub-culture of ignorant boobs who refuse to acknowlege reality. The government is never going to acknowledge the rights of innocent prisoners, it won't even listen to it's outraged citizens.

Dude, this isn't some kid they just picked up off the street. He threw a frag at US military personnel and was caught.

He should have put more thought into his actions and:

1.) not thrown the grenade

2.) had a better plan to get away after throwing the grenade.

Guess he's a no go at this station.

I'm sure he's not gonna just hang his head and admit anything. Truthfulness isn't really an al queda strongpoint. But wait I'm sorry he has nothing to do with the war. He just found that grenade and was trying to give it to the US troops. It accidently went off. Whateva !

Translation of above posters:

'Squawk! The T.V. Box says he is an AL QEIDER! Forget the trials, BURN HIM!'

Guilty until proven innocent. Absolute travesty to see supposed Americans think this way... just because Mr. President tells you it's ok to be a foreign dictator and imprison/torture people without a trial does NOT mean you are a good American for parroting him.

Mr. President is a satanist and the grandson of a Nazi, and by blindly accepting whatever the government tells you, you are no better than the people who stood aside for Hitler.

You are not Americans, or patriots... you are information fodder. Perfect prey for tryanical governments to feed on. Squawk on. Squawk on.


[edit on 3/13/08/13 by junglejake]

Included in a confiscated Al-Queda's training manuel is a part about being captured, then claiming torture. That is a fact.

Ask 100 prisoners in any prison system if they are innocent or guilty and 90% will say they are innocent.

Why should I believe this guy? Why is the media even reporting this? Don't you just love terrorist sympathizers?

Wait until Barack Hussein Obama becomes President, this guy might get the grand tour of the White House, just so he can make ammends with him.

[edit on 12-3-2008 by RRconservative]

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Did you actually read the source that DD supplied, or what he even quoted? He isn't being accused of being Al Qaeda. He threw a grenade and he was caught.

Sorry about that, Gus. Taking your baiting to another thread. You are also a no go at this station. Have a fine AFSOC day.

Pff. There was nothing political about what I said. Thanks for crying about it though.

The person in this article was accused of throwing a grenade. He was not tried. He was not found guilty.

You hear terrorist charges so you assume AL QEIDA! AL QEIDA!

This is called lack of critical thinking. We're used to seeing it by now. Carry on

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I have to ask.

Why is it justified for US soldiers to kill innocents and civilians with hte excuse that "bad things happen in a war"... but... fighting back against the soldiers is flatly inexcusable under any circumstance.

Don't put soldiers in a warzone if you don't want someone to try to kill them.

Didn't sound like the guys that he threw the grenade at were "killing innocents and civilians" at the time.

As I said, he should have thought twice before pitching that grenade. He could have been shot instead.

Did you read the article? The person was 'accused' of throwing a grenade. No trial held. Not found guilty.

Fabrication of events does not constitute intelligence. Not unless you are desperate to excuse war-crimes and torture.

You're absolutely right. He hasn't been tried or found guilty. That's what the trial is for.

Excuse me, but where does it say he was being accused of being Al Qaeda (please use your spell-check). You keep bringing that up, yet the source even said that he wasn't being accused of that.

Put the shoe on the other foot. Humor me.

Imagine for a moment, that the roles were reversed. Imagine that some foreign country invaded our Nation, killed (at conservative estimates) a hundred thousand innocent civilians. Imagine their forces STAYED there, occupying our land and imposing their presence in our neighborhoods, month after month, year after year.

I ask ANY of you soldiers---WOULD YOU NOT FIGHT AGAINST THESE PEOPLE?!?

Now imagine if you did, and you were branded an 'insurgent', or 'terrorist', and hauled off to some prison with no hearing. How would you feel?

Putting the shoe on the other foot, would you not do exactly what they are doing?

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Heck, I'd have done the same thing. Most people would. You just have to realise that this is serious business and you have to accept the consequences of your actions if you're caught. There aren't any free chances.

He's not a terrorist, he's a prisoner of war. We're only told he's a terrorist to dehumanize him in an attempt to quell the public.

If I was seeing my fellow civilians abused and killed by an occupying force and I happened to find a grenade, well... what do you think? I'd kindly return the grenade to the occupiers (after pulling the pin).

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Well I appreciate your honesty Jerico. I just wish we could get out of there and get this over with. Sadly, I don't think our gov is ever going to let that happen.

That's fine. Just don't expect to be treated with kid gloves if you get caught.

And since he wasn't in uniform, that really doesn't make him a POW. That makes him a guerrilla. Treatment/rights for them are different.

I guess you can stop blaming the U.S Government now, and shift the blame to crooked cops.



Wait. Are you talking about militaries or illegal immigration?



It's not justified, what gives you that idea? There is a difference between getting caught in cross fire when a military patrol (or Blackwater) is attacked by a group of human beings that opposes them. Would you just say, "Oh, Hold on guys! Time out! We need to let these innocent civilians get out of the way...... Ok, Ok, thats the last... NO! Wait! One more!.... Ok! Time In! bang bang ratatatatata bang bang."

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Good call. The earlier we abuse them, the more likely they are to turn to Islamic Extremists.

That's what we need. Hell, why don't we just start breeding 'em?