Apollo landing genuine audio

decorum be dammed - i smell a troll

the origional claim was quite unusual - but hey strange things happen , one can oly wonder why this gentleman would turn such an important peice of media over to a hotel manager - reather than any of the museums and archives which would jump at the chance to own it

but the OPs later posts are all further statements - never answers to any question raised

even simple queries like ` what format / condition is the recording in ` remain un answered

call my cynical - but i had grave doubts that " peter " or his recording exist outside the OPs imagination - hence my direct line of questions on the saturn rockets issue - i was determined to shake the tree

the toll hasnt fallen out yet - but i can see it

The Actual audio recording is with professional people at the moment here in the UK obviously everyone is really eager to here them and as soon as i have it back i will release the recordings....

Please just sit tight...

In response to the questions....

What type of media has been used for the recording....

It is some type of reel...

Saturn rockets 15????

Do you live near the kennerdy space centre? did you count every single launch made by nasa using the saturn rockets?
Was you alive?
Have you camped outside each and every launch pad and seen with your own eyes every single launch?

I am not here to answer questions i was meerly just posting what i have discussed i will post the recording and that will be up for discussion...

If you have read the op and all my posts you will realise that I am as much a skeptic as you are regarding what Peter has said...However Unlike some members here i haven't attacked him as not to upset the guy especially when he is trying to help and share what information he does have....

I should have the recording soon but like i said its with the professionals...

Oh Dear – lets take this from the top

On march 13th you wrote :


And closed with



Damm – I over looked that – what EXACTLY did you listen to ???

Because on march 16th you came out with :



In the meantime , you proceeded to ignore a question about format until it was raised a second time

Then you offered :



Reely ???????< pun >

Is it one reel – or more than one ???

What width tape – ¼ , ½ 1 , 2 “ , other ????????????

What reel size ???????????????

What reel type – plastic or metal , flange or no flange

What hub centres – cine or NAB ???

What speed did you play it at ?

What machine did you use ?

Come on – YOU can offer no format info other than “ some reel “ – but you managed to play a 30 second section of it

What exactly did you listen to ??

Because your description is also contradictory :



Say what ???? interference detracts from quality

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yes saturn V rockets - your friend claims that 20 were built - you claimed that he set a ` challenge ` in a later post

well so am i - explain the 5 extra saturn V rockets

PS - i do not need to have camped out at KSC every day - other people documented and recorded every launch - and the saturn V tally is 15

no one has ever produced any evidence of a Saturn launch that did not match the official schedules

BTW - why are you going on the defensive and attempting to deflect the question

why not put it to your "friend , peter " ???

see what " he " has to say

I can't wait to hear this.
I hope it all pans out ok.
You really should try and get 2 copies. 1, a bit fir bit copy, untouched, and the other, a neatened and processed one.
If you need any help in splitting and posting, were more than welcome to help.

It does seem every so often we get 9/11 smoking gun footage & JFK footage unseen but they never seem to come to anything so i'm hoping this is different.
I can't wait to hear it because the moon landing was a major part of history that needs to be cleared up before we go back up there.

You seem to be getting awfully defensive for no good reason here. The people in this thread have asked some very appropriate and legit questions. We are all excited to hear this audio that you claim to have, but im sure you can understand why some of us are skeptical. If you arent sure then ill tell you why.

You made a claim of meeting a man who has the original unedited audio of the apollo moon landing and for some reason gives it to you, a complete stranger.

You have listened to 30 seconds of the audio and say there is alot of interference yet it is in great condition.

You claim to have given the audio over to "professinals" yet you know absoulutley nothing about the format other than "some kind of reel". Did they not tell you anything about it?

You also make claims that there were 20 saturn V rocket launches when all the evidence points to no more than 15.

These are just a few of the reasons why we have questions.Surely you can understand why some of us are a bit skeptical here. Im sure that if you were in our position you would have the same questions that we do. So please try to keep all this in mind.

Dont get me wrong though. I am hoping that this all turns out to be true. I hope that you did recieve the actual unedited audio of the apollo moon landing. I hope you are able to prove us all wrong. But untill then I will remain somewhat skeptical.

what ever happened to patience ? i as im sure many here wil know how long profesionals who do a half decent job dont rush things just because ATS wants it now, i like some others are waiting with baited breath the question is however waiting for what?

Ian said he had heard 30 seconds of the recording and if it is really old tape then its gonna need some TLC or it could be lost forever, its easy ask ian how long is the estimate to the work is completed then give him 2 days after that to offer up the goods? or give the details of the company doing the conversion to one of the owners and ask them to call and follow up on the claims of this 40 yr old tape being converted? nothing to lose that way if you ask me and then we would know for sure if he has something or not, and then we would hve something to look forward too more record of it then less chance its going to go walkabout,

There is already a chance the audio is going to go for a walk because of this thread (if it is real).

Perhaps he has decided to publish for himself which wouldnt be the first time?
Either way we need some confirmation one way or another this sounds very similar to the alien abduction caught on tape which was claimed on a myspace group last year that was also going for some kind of conversion and even had updates etc but to date still has not come true and that guy owned his own radio station who made those claims, we never got an explanation and the author just disapeared.

So how about it?are you willing to offer some evidence to one of the owners ian? or do i like some already have just walk away unconvinced? and im not trying to call you a liar its just taking soooo long we could have gone back to the moon 4 times with the extra saturn v 's .

[edit on 19/3/2008 by azzllin]

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IA,
Don't you think the Russians might have made a big deal about the US launching an unannounced Saturn V?

Don't you think people in the area would have reported it?

I fear to say that I too am very sceptical of the claim relating to the tape, although I know from past experience that things like this must exist. I personally still have a few of the video tapes which were supplied to RDF TELEVISION for a couple of programs on the Moon missions, unfortunatly I don`t have the Audio Inserts tape, which made good listening. It included an un-edited " first words on the the moon, " They were " One small step for man, one DEFIANT leap for mankind". If you listen to the published footage, you can even hear the sloppy editing of these words. I wish that I had kept this tape also, as it had many examples of differences to the official audios, including dialogue which was private between astronauts and Nasa and between the astronauts. I was hoping for a personal copy, but due to circumstances, this never happened. I still have three tapes, but the film company where they were "borrowed" from, is still very much active, so I could be in trouble if I tried to release them without permission. They are MOON `30`- VT INSERTS, LIFT OFF AVID CUT and LUNAR LANDING.

Given yesterdays announcement that they might have found a liquid ocean on Titan, doesnt this give a bit more credence to what this "old man" was supposedly saying?

might be something in this after all

what bothers me is the delay in providing some "taste" of what is on that recording.

i made a post early on asking about the condition of the tape, how it was stored and what not. if it is indeed being digitized, it should be completed by now.

also the whole "interference, but excellent quality" really raises a red flag in my eyes. the tape is either an excellent recording for its time or it is full of interference and age decay.

also, if this tape is being digitized, i do hope that both an original copy and a cleaned-up version get produced.

the last thing that bothers me is this, if you listened to 30 seconds of it, then why can't you tell us what kind of tape medium it is? "some sort of reel" is very vague as there are various kinds of tape reels, that range in tape width (the wider the better) and the size of the reel.

i do really hope that is the real deal and not some "war of the worlds" sham.

Hmmm me too

I really hoped this was going to go somewhere and would turn out to be genuine but after no further details from the OP im very sceptical

AS earlier posted i promise that this recording will surface it is currently being put on to DVD as we speak...

please be patient

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No offence intended here Qwenn, but are you not afraid that these recordings will be destroyed by the film company when they have done with them? not because they want to but because they will be ordered too?

Perhaps you should make back up copies? just in case of an accident? i back up all my cd's in case of damage, imagine if you did make copies? then in 20 years time you discover that the originals where destroyed by accident or on purpose, you would have done everyone a favour by saving part of human history.

IMO opinion dont release them to protect yourself, but make copies to save the truth..

Sorry Ian

Just itching to hear this, especially after his comments about saturn and last weeks news on its possible oceans

Put onto DVD?

This now sounds as though this whole thread has been just a viral marketing campaign and you are planning on selling this audio?

Are you going to give it to us like you mentioned? You do not have to wait until it is on DVD to upload a digital copy.

No the reason this is going on dvd is so that it will last! I ordered 2 dvd's and I had to sign that i was not to alter the original recording once i recieve the dvd.

I am going as fast as i can on this please trust me you will here this recording

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That's fine. Just being skeptical lol... on ATS we question these things due to being let down so many times. It reminds me of a quote from one of my favourite TV shows called 'Scrubs':

"Be careful, I have been hurt before."