Alex Jones: patriot, fraud, or disinfo agent?, page 6
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reply posted on 28-1-2009 @ 11:07 PM by Anonymous ATS
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As time goes by, my views tend to shift in a similar direction to yours. My impression is that if the CIA, Illuminati or however were planning the "New World Order," they would manage to keep it under the radar of the average citizen. Seems to loosely discussed to be anything to worry about.

Who knows...

Seems my opinion changes daily.


reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 08:13 AM by Anonymous ATS




reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 12:58 AM by Anti-Fraud
When I first heard Alex Jones, I thought he was just a Rush Limbaugh clone working another side of politics, but I check him out and liked that he documented what he said with mainstream news or government documents. His entry into the Bohemian Grove was impressive. I grew to appreciate him and trust him for news, even particiapting in his "money bombs".

However, now that he has moved to a new studio with 20+ employees, it seems something has changed. It could be frustration with seeing almost no slowdown in the fall of the US into fascism, with finding that Congress and the Supreme Court can't or won't take any significant action against the criminals in government, with watching Israel with Egypt's help attack unarmed Gazans who could not even escape, but I am disappointed with Alex Jones.

I would like to continue to support his efforts, but he offers no real solutions while providng a never ending number of problems, or his solutions involve selling a DVD that amounts to just a compilation of old news except for Webster Tarpley. The last straw is now that his site censures honest comments without reason after having a contest to protest his censorship by youtube, etc. He also did next to nothing to expose Obama as a usurper who would not release his certified birth certificate, passport information, or any document that would prove he is a natural born US citizen or just a US citizen for that matter before he was sworn into office.

The point is that I like Alex Jones when he has good guests to interview and not just ranting or pushing his DVDs, but otherwise burnt out trying to listen to more problems with no solutions, comment and having them removed without any explanation, and hearing that Americans need to rise up and take over for our elected representatives who pay no attention to their constituients. Somebody tell how that is done in this day without succeding from the "union".


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:48 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
I just recently discovered Alex Jones and his InfoWars site because of a friend who told me about him and his site after we had a discussion on politics and he thought I would enjoy his site and find much of what he posted to be along the same lines as my own thoughts. I was intrigued by Jone's site and amused at his steady banging of the drums, slowly and loudly, sort of like Art Bell used to do. I have long had great concerns for the future of freedom and have even longer been frustrated at the present state of freedom across the world. While much of Jone's "information" seems designed to advocate freedom there is also a very clear agenda of creating fear and even panic amongst his readers. I have gone into his site almost daily since I first discovered it and avoided posting any replies mostly because of the nature of what most of the other people would say in response to the articles posted in InfoWars.

I found much of the responses by the people who post regularly in that site to be too irrational and the fact that so much divisiveness was obviously encouraged by that site gave me great concern as to what Jone's actual agenda really was. Finally after months of reading his articles and the responses I felt compelled to share my own thoughts. Tonight, I spent close to an hour working out a response to an article titled: Conservatives Blind Support of Our Troops Their Unintended Defense of the Big Lie.

I appreciated the earnestness of the article but also couldn't help but take issue with some of the language that author used and what he regarded as the "Big Lie". I do believe that there are many "big lies" being told by government and other outlets and just wanted to put in my two cents. I do not consider myself to be a holder of any great truth or better educated than most but I do have an opinion and it is based on the research I have done on my own and wanted to share that with his public. Those thoughts were never...as someone claiming to be Alex said: "ALLOWED" to be shared with his public. My post was censored. I attempted to re post it but it couldn't post as I kept getting a message telling me that I had all ready posted it. But, there was no sign of my post anywhere.

I had no idea why my post was censored and I would like to share that post with the members here so you can read for yourselves what was not "allowed" to be posted there. There is not enough character space in this field for me to post the reply I posted in InfoWars so I will create a new reply to post that text below this one...


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:52 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
...Here then is that reply that was censored in InfoWars:

The left/right paradigm is not a lie. There is a very real left wing political party and a very real right wing political party. The lie is not that a left/right paradigm has been thrust upon us the lie is that the left have attempted to appear as being liberals while the right has attempted to portray themselves as being conservative. Nothing could be further from the truth than this. The left has, for at least as long as Karl Marx published Das Kapital, been a political party interested in pushing forth the socialist agenda while the right has been interested in creating a fascist state. Both communism and fascism are governments that require a centralization of power. Such centralization of power is repugnant to the Constitution for the United States and even the most ardent liberals would have to agree that the it is the People who hold the inherent political power and that rights preexist government not the other way around.

Communism and fascism both do not recognize the rights of individuals and place the "rights" of the group above the rights of the people. The big lie is not that there is a left and a right and as such a left/right paradigm, as there clearly is such a construct. The big lie is that in order to hold political office in America one must necessarily belong to a political party. Political parties are the big lie and the two party system has done much to undermine the inherent political power of the people in order to seize power for themselves. Both Democrats and Republicans as political parties are the big lie. That Republicans are associated with conservatism is so much a lie that when they begin to act in obvious liberal ways they become labeled "neo-cons". As if such an oxymoronic political view could exist. That Democrats are associated with liberalism becomes more and more of a joke as it becomes increasingly clear that Democrats as a political party are deeply entrenched in socialist agendas...so much so, that they would rightly be called dogmatists or conservatives and what they are conserving is the socialist dogma.

Both Democrats and Republicans have conspired to wage war not just on "terror" or "drugs" or "poverty" but on the people. The so called alternative parties are not much better since they must compete with the two party system in order to obtain any recognition and as such wind up becoming a part of the problem in a lame attempt to be a part of the solution. The so called "war on terror" is just one more attempt in a long history of attempts to usurp the American political system and to seize power. Anyone who is familiar with A Catechism of a Revolutionary by Sergey Nechayev knows full well that it is the aim of a terrorist to create an environment of terror with the people of any given society so that those people will turn to their government and demand safer protocols. As the government responds to those demands they will encroach upon the freedom of the people and keep doing so until the people finally develop such disgust for their own government they revolt. This is the goal of a terrorist, to frighten the populace in ways to create a government so big and intrusive as to undo themselves.

AGAIN THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CHARACTER SPACE SO I WILL CONTINUE IN THE NEXT POST...


reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 01:02 AM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
THE REMAINDER OF THE CENSORED REPLY IN INFOWARS...

That this technique has been employed by the use of terror should not be in doubt and who or what is behind that terror is less relevant than the tragic fact that We the People have allowed our own government to use these acts of terror to create the appearance of a "common enemy" and have allowed that government to disregard the very clear restraints of a Constitution in the name of a "war on terror". But 9/11 was not the beginning of this usurpation of power and the people have sat idly by while both the left and the right have slowly and incrementally seized power and worked in concert to create a centralized government that decides what rights the people may enjoy and what rights will be categorized as privileges granted by government.

The big lie is not in the left/right paradigm but instead lies in the propaganda that The United States is a democracy rather than acknowledging it is a Constitutional republic. The big lie is the propaganda that teaches the people that the lynch pin of freedom lies in voting. Voting is not a natural right but is a privilege granted by government and whether or not people use that privilege does not change the very real fact that all people are born with unalienable rights, regardless of where they live or where they were born. The big lie is that the people surrendered their inherent political power to government and the only say they have is either in voting or the limp wristed act of protestation. Protest may grab attention but it also emphasizes emphasizes that those who are being protested are the ones in power.

Either we the people are the holders of the original political power or we are not. If we are, then protesting to those in "power" is contrary to that inherent political power. We the People do not need to vote in order to affect change nor do we need to protest in "free speech zones" and line ourselves up as lambs to the slaughter of a police state. We the People can flex our muscles in the courts of this land as members of the Grand Jury and as members of other juries and we can overturn legislation with or without the approval of The Supreme Court. We the People can sue those individuals who have acted beyond the scope of jurisdiction granted them by Constitution. We the People have all sorts of measures by which we can ensure we remain free. Yet, instead, we the people sit by and watch as usurpers grab more and more power from us.

Supporting our troops in an unjust war is not an act of conservatism…at least not what conservatism is meant to be in the U.S. for if a conservative is not conserving the Constitution for the United States then what the hell are they conserving?


This is what was censored in Alex Jones site. I contacted their site and asked for an explanation of why it was censored and I posted a reply in that same page declaring my thoughts had been censored and I did get a response on that page from someone claiming to be Alex who said:

alex Says:
November 4th, 2009 at 11:03 pm

Sometimes this site JUST SIMPLY DECIDES which of your thoughts they will ALLOW you to share.

What this say's about Alex Jones I am not sure of, but what I am sure of is that my response to that explanation was also censored and that while I acknowledge a private site has the right to censor whatever they decide they think should be censored, I also do not think much of Alex's explanation of why my thoughts were censored and I can't help but question Jone's agenda after this experience. Anyone who has been into that site knows full well that there is much that is allowed and indeed, much of what is allowed there, it seems to me would not be allowed in this site, I just remain unclear why the divisiveness of many is tolerated and even encouraged but what I said was not "ALLOWED".

I can't help but think that it might have something to do with what I said and that offered hope instead of fear, but who knows?

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