Alex Jones: patriot, fraud, or disinfo agent?

Ok I have busted Jones a few times and he never responds (one instance where he was claiming all of these Illuminati Satan hand signs in the media and from popular programs, that were clearly taken out of context- inlcuding a picture of Stewart Little giving a hang-ten sign with a thumb and pinky extended- come on!). Anyways the man rants and raves about the Clinton death Cabal. Now if you research on sites like Snopes.com you see most of the death list easily debunked. Anyways for all he spews about how evil Hillary is and she cracks open the spines of babies to drink their marrow to extend her life force (kidding of course), lo and behold I went to his web site and what link (paid advertising link) do I see? Take a look for yourselves.


The link goes directly to her web-site to sign up for her email newsletter. What gives? Sorry but I have a hard time taking anything he says too seriously (yet I do listen and watch his web-site daily:@@

Like Alex often says, most people would rather sit around "ninnying" at each other about small insignificant issues or who's a bigger 911 truther rather than unite to face the large issues that face EVERYONE today. He has done more than just about any single person I can think of to spread the message of truth and freedom in our modern times, not to mention inspire people to get off of their ass and start confronting politicians like Luke Rudowski from WeAreChange has done.
So he may spread fear with his information. That should be your natural response to the horrors being perpetrated against us daily. He may be mad, but dammit you have to GET mad to be motivated to fight back.
Alex has taught me that no matter how frightening things may seem now, they are only going to get worse unless we FIGHT BACK.
Like Willie Nelson said "One man can't change the world, but one man can carry a message that will change the world."
We all need to forget about our small differences and carry that message of truth and freedom.


Oh and may I recommend a podcast called "The Corbett Report", which is a weekly podcast dealing with much of the same information Alex deals with but the presenter, James Corbett, is very subdued and nonchalant in contrast to Alex Jones' style, which many of you seem to dislike.

I first heard of Alex while watching the movie Waking life. I was shocked at first to find someone in a movie spouting off the same ideals that I believe in. While there are some things that he says that I don't agree with or have yet to see conclusive evidence of, the others are spot on.

As for his rather outspoken way of dealing with things, I love it. I think it's great to see someone with passion about these issues. Heck these days it's nice to see someone with passion about anything.

I think alex jones is just mad because he's not a real journalist, so he has the sensationalize everything to make himself feel more important.

Mayhaps Alex Jones is just an informator and the way he goes about it just seems to rub a few the wrong way. His information is very powerful and quite revealing.
He's on the good side of good, so I would say that he is mostly right on with what he says.

Let me ask you guys this question.

Does alex jones laugh at people being tortured?

If yes, he is like all you people here, and should he be doing the job he is doing?

You may think its a stranhge question, but do you guys think alex jones thinks torturing people is funny, and if you do not, maybe you do not know him that well.

Some pretty outrageous things are being said about Alex Jones and i think its pathetic. Mainstream media ignores him and his stories and all his info checks out so what now. We either overthrow our entire government because half of them are pedophiles and the other half are traitors OR we attack Alex.

Whatever i`m sure he could care less about a few hapless forum trolls. I say don`t follow Alex Jones, just look up what he talks about and when you see its true go from there on your own and fight for truth.

Don`t worry about Alex Jones at all, do something yourself make yourself known but for god sake stop the whining jealousy of somebody who is successful in what he does.

Truly sad and the nwo must relish seeing people who are telling the truth in media get attacked by others who are posting on a site thats motto is `deny ignorance` how ironic.

I'm not jealous of what he does. He DOES get spot on ifo a good percentage of the time, and at first I LOVED his passion he seemed to have, and probably still does.... but I think he's up to his knees in "some 'splaining to do." about quite a few of his activities, and I realized actually within the past year that he just does more harm than good. Sure he's informing people, but in a way that will make people angry and violent, and what do we get with violence?

We reap what we sew, unfortunately. If you could kill a fellow countrymen for being a traitor and bring about world peace, I would say do what needs to be done. He'd probably be willing to die for world peace, and place his head on the stoop with glee...

but history shows differently.

I mean, look at the South. People are still violently bitter that the Confederates lost the Civil War. The Civil War? People are still angry about a war that happened like 140 years ago???

Just goes to show you the nature of human reaction to violent conflict and fanatic rhetoric.

Alex Jones is not helping those who cannot see past his message to the greater message. Unfortunately, most of his listeners fall into that category, and that's why it isn't helping. Just because you know some truths about the government now doesn't necessarily make you some holy freedom fighter. People on both sides of this conflic are going to be crooked and ruthless, and with bloody conflict, the most clever and ruthless always seem to take the flag.

Rhetoric mixed with pieces of truth... that's all it is, and it's those pieces of truth that I can appreciate... but unfortunately, not everyone is so wise.... and that's why he is dangerous if he's ever to be taken seriously on a massive scale.

reply to post by indierockalien

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So what is the greater message, oh wise one? What message is greater than that of truth, freedom, and liberty for every man?
Jones is a supporter of non-violent dissent and protest, and says quite frequently that a violent revolution would most likely play right into the NWO's hands.




If anything, the information he has helped shed light on has inspired and encouraged many members of the non-violent truth movement.

The problem I have with AJ is his approach. I do not believe that fighting can bring change. I believe only peace and infinite love will bring peace. I used to think fighting and getting angry was the answer, but I no longer believe that. If you look at history and look at humans, fighting never truly solves a problem... it may appease certain groups, or even put down certain perceived "dangers" and you may feel you are in peace or that you have "won", but there is always a group that feels like they got the raw deal and will seek to fight again, in the future. Peace and infinite love does not work this way.

I personally think AJ has the right idea, but is going about things in the wrong way.

[edit on 13-3-2008 by urbal]

I am going to prove Alex Jones is for real and at the same time I am going to show you how to think and differentiate between what matters, the truth and where to place your energy. I met Alex at the Brookstreet Hotel in Kanata Canada,on the Saturday of the Bilderberg Meeting 2006. You can see me in ENDGAME at the 42-43 minute mark wearing the orange dutch soccer jacket. At 9AM I went and stood out front of the hotel there was only 4 people there in the morning 2 pro photogs and 2 french kids they were only 19 and knew more about the NWO than I did I was impressed cool kids. More people came throughout the day to a total of 30 I thought that sucked as Germany had 300 out front protesting. I spent the six hours before alex got there saying a lot of radical things as I was pissed off realizing that this secret meeting that is a violation of the free people was in my country. Anyways alex showed up at 3:30pm and talked to everybody and had a 2 man film crew. A father of 45 with a very young son came up and gave alex that bullhorn that day thanked alex for all hes done and remarked he had paid 150 dollars for the bullhorn as alex thanked the father I got my best feeling of the day it was a very genuine moment out front of a palace of scum. Alex was in Canada and a family man was joining the battle the only way he could non-violently it was an inspiration. The next thing I know on his monday radio show hes talkin about dutch spies running around tryin to get him arrested. His own words

www.prisonplanet.com...

Nobody else was saying anything like that all day accept me and Im not a cop of any kind. The police "allowed" us to protest and they let him bullhorn. This is an example of how to understand alex and the nwo, yes the nwo is real, yes alex is real but he doesn't get it all right all of the time. I called alex at his office in texas and spoke with him for 30 minutes after all this and its cool I dont care that he got that wrong because it doesnt matter we need to stick together and fight the globalists not bicker. Because of the misunderstanding alex offered me a bunch of his movies for free but ive seen them all and dont want anything from a man that has given me so much. Alex jones is just a man he is not a disinfo agent, he makes mistakes, hes paranoid but hes still one of the best at waking up the masses!

Don't tell me you honestly believe you can throw a hand grenade like that and not get called out. So, as it has been said, "Wheres the beef?"

alex jones should have a tv show.here in australia he wouldn't get a run as he's not commerial enough and we've only 5 free to air tv statons,but you americans have john lear(god)knows how many tv stations

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There is always the possibility he's full of stuff; nothing more than a fear pimp who profits off of (best case) misinformation and/or (worst case) known lies.

An honest discussion should include that possibility.

Not really, he just has a bigger bull-horn (literally). I think his exposure is directly related to his claims. Which, IMO, keep getting more......expansive.

If I met the man face to face, and his attitude and his personalityy totally conflicted with his appearance from afar, I would stand corrected.

I still think his approach needs to change a little as things start heating up. If he's for peace, I think he'd understand. Maybe he'd stop screaming and hastily reporting on any old news clippet that suits his view on the state of the affairs of the NWO. Once people are starting to get pinched on the nerves, they will look to anyone with a booming voice and a message that sounds epic to get behind. The reason for this? Because people won't stand up themselves until they have a leader. Alex Jones has become a leader to many, and I do pray to God that all his effort and fund raising advertisement barraging has been to prepare for the day when he is leading many people in a real confrontation with the forces that be. I'd be awfully pissed to find out that all the profits from the advertising he does goes straight into his brand new cars or plasma screens or something. I hope he has good intentions, bt I am mighty mighty suspicious.

My words about him have been harsh, but I have a reason to be cynical towards the number one man selling conspiracies for profit.... because I don't know where that profit actually goes. I don't know what headway he's actually made. All I know, and all you know, is what he and his close consortium of people have told us.

We can verify a decent chunk of the news he reports, considering a lot of it IS mainstream and available to the public on major news websites, but we can't verify that he's "winning the fight against the Global Elite."

I just don't know how you can just go "Yeah, I trust him.", even after meeting him for a little while. I've known people for years who turn around and end up being real scumbags, and I would've never thought twice about it before. Close friends who you confide in and trust with your life can one day turn around and murder you for whatever reason. It happens more often than you'd like to think.

So... do I have trust issues? A little bit... but trust isn't made by seeing somebody from far away and then meeting them for a brief time. Trust takes an extended period of time without having any reason surface that would cause you to second thought your trust. Alex has made mistakes in reporting and musing, that can be forgiven and easily forgotten... but something like selling a whole family out to 20/20 for 700 dollars? If that is true, there's all the character analysis you need.

What about him censoring and cutting off callers constantly because they don't agree with him, and can hold steadfast in a debate against him?

I remember a few episodes where this hillbilly guy called, had to be a joke or something, and Alex was interviewing this guy who just had no idea what he was saying and just disagreed to disagree for stupidity's sake.... and it was the funniest damn thing.... but that went on for weeks, maybe that guy is still calling... and for him to talk to a guy like that for ages, but to cut off a guy who holds a really strong end in a debate, it seems as though Alex has some sort of righteous ego to maintain sometimes. It's like he's afraid to be proven completely wrong.

I don't fully trust any man who has his image to uphold.

I could be completely wrong, but Alex himself will decide whether he's worth all his weight in words, or whether he's destined to become just another "truth" dealer, in it to make money off those desperately seeking something to give meaning to their existence.

I kinda hope I'm proven completely wrong. His shows are kinda interesting, either way you slice it. He makes a great entertainer, at the very least. I guess he deserves his paycheck after entertaining so many people with his on-air persona... but what price do we pay, if all we're listening to is other people for the info?

Alex is an agent provacatur. He is enraging people to stand up violently to the government, and that is not the solution. Anger puts you into the dense energy pattern that feeds their agenda. The same effect with fear. Love and peace are higher vibrations. Fear and anger breeds more fear and anger. That's why he's alive, he feeds their ultimate agenda. When he and Rense started to charge people on their sights, and you had to sign up to join, I knew it was time to get out of there. 2012 is coming, and you don't want to be in a state of anger or fear when that comes, or you will become a target, or a victim, or just their slave.
Ultimately there is an other dimensional angle to this, of which Alex is most likely not aware. Read David Icke and ask yourself why Alex Jones and Jeff Rense no longer interview David Icke.

ps, I have met him face to face and I personally know people who know a lot about him and his dealings with RBN radio, and where his money really comes from. He will not go to the top of the pyramid, the Vatican. He likes to blame the jews. Who are his Jesuit handlers? That's the real question.

I love alex his approach and the way he freaks out on the air makes me happy cause much of the time he is on there he is saying stuff either that I want to yell aloud in the street or get my own bullhorn

at first around 1999 I was a little leary of alex I would go down to austin for SCI, WSP shows and wake up and would always look for him on the local tv channel thats how long ive been following/listening to him checking his sites

i think he is complete bonkers but perfect at it and he has had some respectable people on his show...

just the other day he had on jerome corsi and then the next night michael savage was interviewing him I listen to tons of talk radio and I am amazed sometimes on how alex will be covering something on monday and then the other talking heads start to cover it on wednesday

he isnt dead he says "cause god does not want it" he honestly believes this i have asked him face to face

[edit on 14-3-2008 by 911fnord]

"Cuz God does not want it."?

At least he seems confident in person, too.