Alex Jones: patriot, fraud, or disinfo agent?, page 3
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reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:14 PM by indierockalien
I'm not jealous of what he does. He DOES get spot on ifo a good percentage of the time, and at first I LOVED his passion he seemed to have, and probably still does.... but I think he's up to his knees in "some 'splaining to do." about quite a few of his activities, and I realized actually within the past year that he just does more harm than good. Sure he's informing people, but in a way that will make people angry and violent, and what do we get with violence?

We reap what we sew, unfortunately. If you could kill a fellow countrymen for being a traitor and bring about world peace, I would say do what needs to be done. He'd probably be willing to die for world peace, and place his head on the stoop with glee...

but history shows differently.

I mean, look at the South. People are still violently bitter that the Confederates lost the Civil War. The Civil War? People are still angry about a war that happened like 140 years ago???

Just goes to show you the nature of human reaction to violent conflict and fanatic rhetoric.

Alex Jones is not helping those who cannot see past his message to the greater message. Unfortunately, most of his listeners fall into that category, and that's why it isn't helping. Just because you know some truths about the government now doesn't necessarily make you some holy freedom fighter. People on both sides of this conflic are going to be crooked and ruthless, and with bloody conflict, the most clever and ruthless always seem to take the flag.

Rhetoric mixed with pieces of truth... that's all it is, and it's those pieces of truth that I can appreciate... but unfortunately, not everyone is so wise.... and that's why he is dangerous if he's ever to be taken seriously on a massive scale.



reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 05:34 PM by Trauma
reply to post by indierockalien


So what is the greater message, oh wise one? What message is greater than that of truth, freedom, and liberty for every man?
Jones is a supporter of non-violent dissent and protest, and says quite frequently that a violent revolution would most likely play right into the NWO's hands.

Originally posted by indierockalien
Sure he's informing people, but in a way that will make people angry and violent, and what do we get with violence?



If anything, the information he has helped shed light on has inspired and encouraged many members of the non-violent truth movement.


reply posted on 13-3-2008 @ 09:13 PM by thebluemushroom
I am going to prove Alex Jones is for real and at the same time I am going to show you how to think and differentiate between what matters, the truth and where to place your energy. I met Alex at the Brookstreet Hotel in Kanata Canada,on the Saturday of the Bilderberg Meeting 2006. You can see me in ENDGAME at the 42-43 minute mark wearing the orange dutch soccer jacket. At 9AM I went and stood out front of the hotel there was only 4 people there in the morning 2 pro photogs and 2 french kids they were only 19 and knew more about the NWO than I did I was impressed cool kids. More people came throughout the day to a total of 30 I thought that sucked as Germany had 300 out front protesting. I spent the six hours before alex got there saying a lot of radical things as I was pissed off realizing that this secret meeting that is a violation of the free people was in my country. Anyways alex showed up at 3:30pm and talked to everybody and had a 2 man film crew. A father of 45 with a very young son came up and gave alex that bullhorn that day thanked alex for all hes done and remarked he had paid 150 dollars for the bullhorn as alex thanked the father I got my best feeling of the day it was a very genuine moment out front of a palace of scum. Alex was in Canada and a family man was joining the battle the only way he could non-violently it was an inspiration. The next thing I know on his monday radio show hes talkin about dutch spies running around tryin to get him arrested. His own words

www.prisonplanet.com...

Nobody else was saying anything like that all day accept me and Im not a cop of any kind. The police "allowed" us to protest and they let him bullhorn. This is an example of how to understand alex and the nwo, yes the nwo is real, yes alex is real but he doesn't get it all right all of the time. I called alex at his office in texas and spoke with him for 30 minutes after all this and its cool I dont care that he got that wrong because it doesnt matter we need to stick together and fight the globalists not bicker. Because of the misunderstanding alex offered me a bunch of his movies for free but ive seen them all and dont want anything from a man that has given me so much. Alex jones is just a man he is not a disinfo agent, he makes mistakes, hes paranoid but hes still one of the best at waking up the masses!


reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 07:09 AM by SlightlyAbovePar
reply to post by thetruth777



There is always the possibility he's full of stuff; nothing more than a fear pimp who profits off of (best case) misinformation and/or (worst case) known lies.

An honest discussion should include that possibility.


reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 07:35 AM by indierockalien
If I met the man face to face, and his attitude and his personalityy totally conflicted with his appearance from afar, I would stand corrected.

I still think his approach needs to change a little as things start heating up. If he's for peace, I think he'd understand. Maybe he'd stop screaming and hastily reporting on any old news clippet that suits his view on the state of the affairs of the NWO. Once people are starting to get pinched on the nerves, they will look to anyone with a booming voice and a message that sounds epic to get behind. The reason for this? Because people won't stand up themselves until they have a leader. Alex Jones has become a leader to many, and I do pray to God that all his effort and fund raising advertisement barraging has been to prepare for the day when he is leading many people in a real confrontation with the forces that be. I'd be awfully pissed to find out that all the profits from the advertising he does goes straight into his brand new cars or plasma screens or something. I hope he has good intentions, bt I am mighty mighty suspicious.

My words about him have been harsh, but I have a reason to be cynical towards the number one man selling conspiracies for profit.... because I don't know where that profit actually goes. I don't know what headway he's actually made. All I know, and all you know, is what he and his close consortium of people have told us.

We can verify a decent chunk of the news he reports, considering a lot of it IS mainstream and available to the public on major news websites, but we can't verify that he's "winning the fight against the Global Elite."

I just don't know how you can just go "Yeah, I trust him.", even after meeting him for a little while. I've known people for years who turn around and end up being real scumbags, and I would've never thought twice about it before. Close friends who you confide in and trust with your life can one day turn around and murder you for whatever reason. It happens more often than you'd like to think.

So... do I have trust issues? A little bit... but trust isn't made by seeing somebody from far away and then meeting them for a brief time. Trust takes an extended period of time without having any reason surface that would cause you to second thought your trust. Alex has made mistakes in reporting and musing, that can be forgiven and easily forgotten... but something like selling a whole family out to 20/20 for 700 dollars? If that is true, there's all the character analysis you need.

What about him censoring and cutting off callers constantly because they don't agree with him, and can hold steadfast in a debate against him?

I remember a few episodes where this hillbilly guy called, had to be a joke or something, and Alex was interviewing this guy who just had no idea what he was saying and just disagreed to disagree for stupidity's sake.... and it was the funniest damn thing.... but that went on for weeks, maybe that guy is still calling... and for him to talk to a guy like that for ages, but to cut off a guy who holds a really strong end in a debate, it seems as though Alex has some sort of righteous ego to maintain sometimes. It's like he's afraid to be proven completely wrong.

I don't fully trust any man who has his image to uphold.

I could be completely wrong, but Alex himself will decide whether he's worth all his weight in words, or whether he's destined to become just another "truth" dealer, in it to make money off those desperately seeking something to give meaning to their existence.

I kinda hope I'm proven completely wrong. His shows are kinda interesting, either way you slice it. He makes a great entertainer, at the very least. I guess he deserves his paycheck after entertaining so many people with his on-air persona... but what price do we pay, if all we're listening to is other people for the info?
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