Alex Jones: patriot, fraud, or disinfo agent?

He screams because he is pissed off. No one in this country gives a flying # about the attrocities the government commits behind our backs.

Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Tuskegee, Operation Northwoods, Operation Ajax, MKUltra, Business Plot, Iran/Contra, JFK, Gulf of Tonkin, etc..

Our government is involved in some of the most heinous crimes in the history of civilization, yet no one cares. Alex Jones is one of the few that care, and he is out to put and end to it. Forgive him for getting loud when he is trying to inform the populace. If people won't listen when you talk to them normally, you have to go to extreme measures to get the message out.

How so?

Other, much larger public figures have been assassinated in public and private, and little to nothing ever came of their investigation.


On one hand you say, hes a huge media figure (too big to be assassinated), on the other, you say hes only an internet figure. Which is it?

Patriot? Yes. Fraud? No. Consumed by fear? Yes. Does that fear distort his vision and the reality he perceives? Yes. Should his theories be taken with a grain of salt? Yes. IMO

WOW

Do you have any evidence of this? Seriously, i would love to see something that proves 5 and 6 run the CIA and the FBI

If they did, i doubt they would have had some of the fiascos that they have had, bay of pigs springing immediately to mind. Mind you, MI6 cant even assassinate an ex princess without drawing the worlds attention

The reason they wont knock off alex is because he pays a group of people to follow him wherever he goes, while they are following him they are video taping him. Not just him but every angle around him up and down, they do this so that if there is ever an attempt on his life (be it succsesful or not) there will be lots of video evidence to examine after the fact. He also has evey room in is house wired up and all angles covered outside for the same purpose. They wont take him out because of the exposure risk.

reply to post by Retikx

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Two things I see about his "protection" that wont make a difference.

1) The use of a patsy shooter. Its not uncommon for PTB to use people that have no real connection to them as their shooters. Hell even a hired gun would work.

2) High powered weaponry. In todays world, we have some very high powered rifles, with equally high powered scopes. What if he is shot from a distance the camera's cannot make out?

I hardly see AJ's security detail as anything but publicity for himself.

I should remind people here that in June or July of 2001, Alex Jones said they were going to crash airplanes into the WTC, and blame it on Osama Bin Laden.

Take it for what it is worth.

just when i thought I had heard them all..
wow, dude. seriously?

Hmm I did see his Endgame he does seem to be a bit of a person who needs to control his anger a bit, but they could have silenced Micheal Moore as well, his documentaries are good but Moore just attacks guns, and health care.

I may not always agree with Alex Jones, but I respect him and I appreciate what he does. He is really dedicated in a way that almost no one else is. Even though his show is colorful and opinionated, it is the most informative podcast that I listen to regularly. Most other people are afraid to say much publicly, or don't have what it takes to do the homework.

That being said, I do have the urge now and then to visit him with some herbal tea and talk him into calming down a little. It can't be good for his health to get so worked up everyday.

reply to post by sir_chancealot

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Hello,I'm a longtime member & first time poster her on ATS. I firmly believe that anyone can believe whatever they want to but the fact is that William (Bill) Cooper from the radio broadcast "The Hour of Our Time" predicted the 9-11 attacks. I personaaly believe this is why Cooper was gunned down by government officials in Nov. of 2001. Alex Jones never gave Cooper credit for this and I've personally wrote Jones online reguarding a video he posted with Rudy Giulliani stating that he had advanced knowledge of the towers collapsing. It turned out that this video was a fabrication, putting Giulliani's words out of context. I sent him the original video and asked if he was aware that this video he hosted was promoting disinfo and that if he wasn't aware of it that he could make the proper corrections. No response was ever given.
This gave me insight into his character. I started seeing all of the fearmongering and disinfo he provides to the public. I'm not on this thread to bash Alex Jones because he has truly awaken many. I simply do not take what he says to heart because if I did I would be a very angry individual and scared of the world around me. If everyone responded to the corruption and conspiracies in this world with anger it would be alot easier to take away our rights and cause martial law.
Again, respect to anyone who follows Alex Jones. Freedom is our common bond.

I think he's scared, slightly deluded, but very passionate. He does call attention to lots of bad stuff the US has done, but he also calls attention to stuff the US isn't doing (crazy NWO stuff). As they say, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

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Got proof?

I agree, great questions. Nevertheless, I believe the NWO is so confident in their power and control of the situation that they think nothing and no one could stop or even hinder their agenda.

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I don't think Alex is intentionally a disinfo agent, but since many of his sources are mainstream news (just nothing shouted out by the sources that publish them) such as the AP its possible that he's delivering the disinformation the global elite want everyone to get unintentionally...

One theory I've been coming up with is that there isn't one group of uber-rich trying to rule the world, perhaps there are dozens of competing groups seeking Global domination that work together only when major obstacles need to be surmounted, the global elite are too rich and greedy to want true unity with anyone and I'm sure each of the higher-up shadowy figures probably wants the world's throne all to themselves...

I don't think Alex is a fraud only because there is no reason to think he is, after all, what does he gain from all this? As for creating fear, sure, if that's the reaction you have toward it all, once you get passed fear anger takes over though, in some ways it feels much like the founding father's might have felt when fighting tyranny, the global elite make a mockery of the liberty and truth we stand for, and they need to be stopped...

Patriot? maybe.

Businessman? definitely.

I wonder if he believes half the crap he spews out.

reply to post by dave420

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Exactly.

So what if the man gets irate once in a while... he's one of the only people doing that specific job. Every other political radio pundit is EXTREMELY corrupt and does nothing but spread government propaganda.

If you were to ask Alex, I'm sure he would tell you that he is TIRED of being the only person in the public eye talking about this stuff. He is physically and emotionally exhausted from it...

That's why he's always putting the spotlight on experts, officials, scientists etc. who are also trying to spread the truth.

Anyone who is a true threat to the real power on this planet is eliminated; including Presidents, i.e RFK, JFK, MLK, Lincoln etc etc.

Jones, just like Bush serve the ends of those who are Real Power on this planet, and if you think the "Real Power" on this planet are humans, you need to think in Global Terms, not in terms of years, tens of years or hundreds of years.

The more I understand, the less I am worried about any of this. These two series of interviews that have been put up on YouTube are just a couple of many that have helped me relax.

YouTube Link

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reply to post by Ownlife

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Yep. William Cooper predicted 9-11 quite a few months before Alex did.

Also, if you read a book, called the Stargate Conspiracy, which was published in late 2000, it has an eerie line in the intro that seems to predict 9-11... lemme see if I can find it, and I'll post it in a new thread...

but the thing is that people knew way before Alex. I think he possibly takes credit for too much of other people's work. Predicting 9-11 was a good example. I'm sure there are a few others. I'm not calling him a hack, but he seems desperate to keep churning out info, and when that happens, investigative work gets shoddy, gaps are filled in with fluff, stories are flat out imagined, dubious sources are cited, and.... plagerism of other less known people's work, just enough so he can get away with it.

This is why you gotta have a good eye when looking at his stuff, because dude he's making a living off selling conspiracies... like Johnny Anonymous says in the intro to every damn ATS Mix, we should be just as suspicious about the people SELLING conspiracies... and he's not only selling conspiracies, but also health products, overpriced water filtration things, business web hosting (???), and a whole bunch of other really useless gadgets and things....

In the end, the two things that made me back away from Alex Jones was the insane advertising he basically whores himself out for (especially the ads where he's narrating.... jeez, I mean... He's got a family to feed, I guess... and some cool luxuries to have.... and a nice house and a great security system to maintain and yada yada you get my point!)
AND his support for a presidential candidate. I mean, he totally contradicted himself there. Which is it, Alex? Is the voting system and election system a fraud, or do real genuine candidates have a chance?

In the end, Ron Paul disappeared, which I'm kinda disappointed about. He was a halfway decent candidate, and it almost looked like he was gunna get ahead.... but he, along with Kucinich, was quickly wiped off the map before the primaries.

I found his support for a presidential candidate suspicious, though. I just kept wondering how much campaign money Ron Paul would use to pay off Alex to boost his name amongst disaffected citizens, of which there have been a giant number of in the past year or two... growing every day.

Obviously, Alex Jones isn't in that good with the elite. His prez hopeful is practically invisible now.

I highly doubt he's an NWO agent or something like that, but he's definitely a human who makes mistakes. I think he has mistakenly taken advantage of "the truth" in order to make money, because he's damn convincing. He could probably sell a ketchup popsickle to a woman in white gloves, if given the chance. (name that movie )

The only way to stop the nwo order is to stop fearing them. They may be able to manipulate us of money, health etc on earth, but they can't stop the balance of good, they will fall one day. When we pass on they are completely powerless, the source will sort them out lol.

As for Alex Jones, i think people are going to have to agree to disagree on this topic. Exposing the nwo is good, you can easily create a argument that he is good/bad, it's down to the persons thoughts about it. The ideas people are coming up with make a good read. They say any publicity is good publicity, and the power he says they have, their capabilities may only put more fear into the people making them stronger. Thats just an alternative thought, im going to keep my thoughts to myself on this one, lazyness has taken over me today.