Alex Jones: patriot, fraud, or disinfo agent?

Alex has done a great deal to expose NWO and create massive awareness in the masses. Awareness may halt the plan.


He also created fear, which is not a good thing.



Why is he still alive, if he could have been silenced like Bill Cooper and the others?



Why is the Elite allowing him to do so much damage?




And if what he says is disinfo, it seems quite consistent with teh research I've done.


If he is genuine, why is he alive?




Those are questions to think about.

reply to post by thetruth777

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Great questions! I have often thought about each and everyone you listed. I do not know the answers, but it leads me to believe that your statement, "Awareness may halt the plan." is not really the state of things currently. I see it as, "awareness WILL accelerate the plan" (NWO's agenda). Maybe Jones, who is considered by many, even here on ATS, to be a "kook" is just a little to behind on his message to the people. ie - allthough he is a leading descendant, we are beyond the point of no return, thus he really does not necessitate a harsh silencing?

Alex Jones needs to chill. He's scaring my unborn unconcieved sperms to death. What happens when I finally get laid for the first time ever in history? God, he's ruining my non virginity back into virginity.

Oh and also he's a fear mongering testosterone high power hungry dictator jr. He is an extremeist. It's great to question the government, but Alex Jones is creating an atmosphere of anger and malevolence... not peace.

He may have good interests at heart, but ghe's gone off the ego trippin' deep end. He's gone swimming in big headed river.

Perhaps Jones is genuine in his exposure of the NWO but maybe
A. they are allowing him to speak to see what cross section of society believes him.
B. Get people so tired of hearing about the NWO that everyone is in the "Who Cares" frame of mind. Basic desensitization
C. He has a tendency to get stupid with the information (hes argumentative, somewhat hostile, cuts people off including guests, hyper in a mania kind of way) basically discrediting him

Interesting thing about the world of spookiness and one level above (creepiness) in the intelligence world. Mind you, MI5 and 6 run the entire international intelligence agencies. (Mossad, CIA, FBI, Saud Secret Service, ISI, Al Qaeda..basically all of it) You can be a part of their operation and have no knowledge of what they are doing with you.

[edit on 12-3-2008 by fastwalker23]

alex jones brings information and an uncommon, distinct perspective to the table. like everything else, one must always be wary not to follow the messenger, regardless of the message. i don't know anything about the man so i shall not judge. as for his intentions, to me it's irrelevant because i am not a follower of men and i never take anyones 'word for it'.

Yeah but Alex Jones doesn't really pay attention to the philosophical part of this whole thing. There is no "us against them". We're all in this together. Instead of being afraid and defensive towards some shadow government creeping closewr every day, why not realize that you let this happen just as much as everybody else? If we as a society change our behaviour, become more civilized towards each other, help each other more, work together instead of competing with one another, we wouldn't need some violent uprising. People would just begin following the example being set by peaceful-minded people, and slowly it would naturally counteract the opposing force, the side that always wants war and more.

All Alex Jones is doing is pissing people off and frightening people. A lot of Alex Jones fans can't tell truth from squat, and they're just as much backwoods screwed up biggots and uninformed pawns as the "NWO" or the "sheeple", and they hang on his every word like he's Jesus and he can do no wrong. If only more people would take his message with a grain of salt, and look for their own truth, we wouldn't have this guy basically ruining the image of "conspiracy theorists". We're not all nut jobs standing in the street, screaming in people's faces through a megaphone "The end is nigh! The end is nigh!". Most people know better than that. You don't get through to people by screaming at them. II learned that a long time ago when I used to fight with my mopm in high school. I'd have a point, but she would stop listening to me, because I decided to scream my point across to her, and she felt threatened and annoyed by it.

Same with Alex Jones. People generally feel threatened and annoyed by him when he's yelling on street corners. Although some stop to listen, and thats's the scary part. I swear, Alex Jones' movements and demeanor when publicly speaking remind me of Hitler. He can say he stands for all this fluffy stuff like patriotism and the constitution and Our Beloved America!!!!!!! but in the end, all he stands for is another illusion of grandeour. He stands for nothing important.

I've said this once, and I'll say it again. America is not important in the least bit to the survival of this species. Peace, kindness, working together, all of these things will save us, whereas clutching our paws on a dying social experiment will only bring us more desperation.

Alex Jones sells desperation and extremeism, and he's so blinded by his own face in the mirror, that he doesn't seem to understand what he's yelling about. This is why nobody is stopping him. Civil unrest is good for the war industry. I hear China's war machine warming up as we speak. Good for business, they would say about Alex Jones.

Patriot, American, Radio-host... and nothing but.

All the people spouting tripe about Alex and how he is an NWO insider are so full of it.

It really is painful watching people slander a person who is trying to save his country... all Alex can do is make his documentaries and host his radio show. He is NOT getting rich by doing it... in fact he's probably going to die at an early age (or unnaturally) because of it.

In my opinion, all the people who slander Alex are cowards and traitors to this country. I feel the same way about anybody who speaks ill about patriotic activities.

If you badmouth people for protesting, examining the government, or any other patriotic activity you are a traitor to your country. Unfortunately, this country is full of traitors.

Alex Jones is just who he is.
That is just his personality.
He gets out there and says what he thinks.
If you do not agree with him, you should start your own show.
Once you are more popular than him, then go ahead and criticize him.
Meanwhile keep it down.

He has too much media exposure, for the powers that be, to assassinate him. I think they feel the best approach is to ignore him. Outside of the internet community, most people don't know him very well. I think the government and NWO realizes that they've already lost most of the internet community anyway, so there really isn't much threat to them.

I have thought about this quite a bit. His style is a little ragged around the edges, and he is a fireball, yelling and screaming sometimes. I have to say that I have done the research and come to many of the same conclusions, that he preaches constantly.

He predicted 9/11.

I had never even heard of the guy until I actually met him at South Padre Island TX. in sept 2002. Completely by chance I was discussing 9/11 with my cousins (we were there for my uncle's wedding) late at night, and he was sitting there smoking a cig. He interjected that there were demolition charges in the buildings before the planes hit. I thought he was a loon, and asked him what he did for a living, and he said he had a radio show that talked about 9/11 and government corruption.

I first heard him on Coast to Coast am at some point in 2004. And I really started researching 9/11 in late 04' after voting for Bush for a second time. (I was a brainwashed neocon)

So really I guess I owe my "Awakening" to Alex Jones.


There is only one possibility that he is a disinfo agent, and that is to get everyone that is "aware" of the current situation to stand up and say here I am, so the feds will have an easier time rounding us up.

But I'm not really worried about that, I have decided what the line is to set me off into a Grand Theft Auto style rampage against the Federal Gov't. I will probably not have much of a body left to be rounded up after that is over.

Some really disgusting diatribe there my friend. I'm not going to remove you from my friends list but I am awfully tempted.

You claim Alex is all about his ego, yet the only person spouting about him for pages is yourself. Alex haters spend far more time discussing Alex then even his biggest fans... kind of sad.

Alex resembles Hitler? I guess speaking loudly and using hand gestures makes a person a Nazi now? That's sad...

Alex stands for nothing? I guess endlessly fighting for the constitution and keeping a watch on the erosion of Americas freedoms is 'nothing' to you? We should all be doing those things but America is apathetic and people just want to tear eachother down. Sound familiar?

Alex is just a man. He claims no titles, no awards... he is not full of himself and the only thing he brags about is his love for his country.

You think it's wrong for the man to be angry and afraid? You think it's wrong for a patriot to be angered at the erosion of his freedoms, and afraid for the safety of his children and his country?

I don't want to understand this kind of thinking. Some people cannot stand the success of another person, even when they are doing a good thing... me, I live my life in support of good people who do good things... Alex Jones is a fellow American that I am proud of.

[edit on 12-3-2008 by NewWorldOver]

In the Soviet Union, if someone started an anti-communist radio show, it would be terminated within minutes.


If they had something to hide, why could they NOT terminate that radio show first-day, and take down infowars? Why did they ALLOW him to get media exposure?



On the other hand, he is a reliable information source. Can't see him helping ANY cause.

In fact, in Russia today, bloggers are now being arrested:

www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Laugh, Chide, do what you will but understand that at least one person prayed to his Creator for "clarity" and ended up at infowars.

Understand also that all things are possible through God and if Alex is doing God's bidding - Nothing - will stop him until it is done.

just my .02

God bless Alex Jones!

Alex Jones for President! Freedom Party '08!

He's the reason I bullhorn City Hall on Monday Mornings at 8am

It works! W00t!

I don't hate Alex Jones. I think maybe he thinks he's doing the right thing. I thought so, too, actually. I used to listen to Alex Jones religiously, and hung onto every word. A lot of what he says has been true, and is being true. I watch him, I listen to him, and to tell you the truth, if more people could maybe analyze info a little better in their minds, I wouldn't feel that Alex is going about this all wrong... but people don't GET it. Just like William Cooper, they take these figureheads words for it.

I have the same problem with Bill Cooper, only less so because as crazy as some of his information seemed, and as crazy as some people say he was, he went so much deeper than Alex Jones did. Headmitted his weaknesses, he admitted his religious bias, he knew his own institutions were failing him.... and he left no holds barred. He put things out there as raw as he saw them. Maybe he wasn't right about everything, but I don't think it matters now. He made a modest living just trying to get people informed of what is happening as best as he could, and look who died? Alex is alive, Bill is dead. If the NWO is the menace we all think, why did they kill him and not Alex Jones? Why is ALex Jones even still allowed to talk against the government? Because he still supports the government. He still supports violent revolution, when it comes down to that point. He still supports negative chaos, and history has shown what negative chaos brings us again and again. The same people we rebel against put on shiny new facades and stroll out another puppet who says they have the answer, and then what? We're lied to, and we're screwed over in even more complicated and messed up ways.

We're always sitting there, wondering why things never change.... well, maybe we should be looking at how we've tried changing things in the past. What have we always done? Taken sides and fought over who's right and who's wrong.

Same way we bicker here.

Alex Jones is just a man with opinions, but if you have trouble analyzing things for yourself, and if you have a bad habit of following any movement that stirs up your emotions with their powerful words, you should not listen to him.... because he's taken too literally.

I give thanks to Alex, as well, but in the same breath... I encourage him to calm down, look past the flag and the cross that blind his higher thought, and start presenting his information with a little more virtue, and a little less fanaticism.

I'm not saying he's "on their side" or anything... but if the NWO have taken notice of him which I'm sure they have, they think of him as harmless. He scares people. My nephew thinks Alex Jones worships Satan because one time I was watching some documentary, and ALex was screaming about god knows what, and I guess it scared my nephew and he ran away and told his mom that I was watching satan worshippers.
Also, the people who follow him and take after his footsteps... they in turn scare people, too.

He's had good info, nobody disputes that.... but unfortunately for some reason, he chooses to present it in a very in your face fashion... and it just needs to be subtle.... because people do not know how to rreact to this kind of thing. It's too sensetive of material to just be exploded into the average person's face. They will just go "whoa, cah-reep!" and walk away, maybe even run away.

Calm down, Alex. The NWO is not coming this instant. We can breathe easy for at least like, a few hours....

Also.... Alex likes to get people riled up. Just listen to any of his "y2k" episodes, and you'll see what I mean. I mean, he had people literally thinking that the country was falling apart, and people ran for the hills! People sold everything they owned and moved away from civilization, people spent thousands on extra supplies and thousands more on building safety bunkers and stuff.

He had the activist/conspiricist community in a frenzy.

What happened because of y2k???

N O T H I N G.

Alex gets tidbits of information and just runs miles with 'em, boy. Sometimes he runs in the wrong direction towards a brick wall, and has like thousands of people running blindfolded behind him.

He needs to choose his words, not only for his own safety, but for the safety of his listeners.

Also.... Alex likes to get people riled up. Just listen to any of his "y2k" episodes, and you'll see what I mean. I mean, he had people literally thinking that the country was falling apart, and people ran for the hills! People sold everything they owned and moved away from civilization, people spent thousands on extra supplies and thousands more on building safety bunkers and stuff.

He had the activist/conspiricist community in a frenzy.

What happened because of y2k???

N O T H I N G.

Alex gets tidbits of information and just runs miles with 'em, boy. Sometimes he runs in the wrong direction towards a brick wall, and has like thousands of people running blindfolded behind him.

He needs to choose his words, not only for his own safety, but for the safety of his listeners.

Praise Him! God Bless Alex Jones and his Hyperbole!

Alex Jones: Your Self-Appointed Gov't corruption watchdog!

Who is bill cooper? googling......

Seems Alex has been brought up before. (along the same lines as the O.P.)

But there are some good points brought up by the O.P., and I have also pointed out some inconsistencies in the past with some of his stories. (such as his B.G. story.)

Maybe perhaps the real conspiracy is that there is no conspiracy and life is a game...mostly played out by the ego. (that tool which possesses most of humankind as they identify with their thoughts.)

Seriously.

It seems the true conspiracy is to always be stuck in taking sides.
So in essence I would guess that if anything Alex is more ruled by the 'egoic self' than by a conspirator master, what not.

Who knows, fun to bounce these ideas around though.

Peace

dAlen

[edit on 13-3-2008 by dAlen]