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1 in 4 teen girls has sexual disease


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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 07:47 PM by Harassment101


Originally posted by an0maly33
"over 1 in 4"?

does that sound exaggerated to anyone else? i think they're either inflating that number to support some argument/agenda or they took an inaccurate sample. either that or i have a skewed concept of the promiscuity of today's youth.


It sounds extreamly exaggerated. It sounds like they are trying to push the STD vaccine by Merrick. I believe that is what is at the heart of this new finding.

If 1 in 4 sexually active teen has an STD and the same stats are saying 1 in 4 American's has an STD then something is off. If the stats are correct, then you would expect to find the adult figures to be much higher.

Teens are having more sex, but these figures are suppose to represent all American teens 836 girls used to represent 12 million girls. I would want a much higher sample before I go jumping the gun.

Also those figure included African-American, White, and I think Spanish youth only. What about Asian, Native American, South East Asian, etc. For something that is suppose to represent all of American teens, they sure are leaving out a large percentage of them. Also this does not include Amish teens, Mormons etc.

We don't know the socio-economic backgrounds of the girls or even how the CDC found the girls. I assume the girls came in for BCP (Birth control of some kind) and then were asked to do the survey. This could mean they are only getting people who are already having sex, or who are thinking about it, and then does that really represent an accurate sampling?

Also according to the survey, half the girls said they had not had sex. So were they raped, violated by family member close friends, not clear on the definition of having sex?

There are way too many variables to consider. Also the 50% of black girls have an STD. In America every bi-racial girl still has to check off African-American if she has a drop of black blood in her. So how many were of mixed race origin and counted as African-American only?

Unless the CDC give more info on demographics, and socio-ecomonic standings, also on how they found the girls, if the girls were compensated for the survey, then I absoulutly rufuse to believe that this is a correct sampling for 12 million American girls ages 13-19. Especially considering they left out Asians, Native Americans and South East Asians, to name a few. Those populations I am sure are hugh in some areas and without those figures, how dare they say it's an accurate sample for all American teens.

The CDC should stop pushing the STD merrick vaccine agenda, and I honestly think that is a part of this survey. I would love to see someone else do the same survey. I would also like to see this survery done for males. It was done for females however cause that is how the merrick STD vaccine is being pushed on.



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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 08:03 PM by Harassment101


Originally posted by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
reply to post by cavscout



Trying to teach a kid to abstain from sex is like trying to teach a dog or cat to abstain from sex. Its a waste of time . Sure suggest it all you want but it will not happen . You are delusional if you think it will . .


Teaching them about the diseases and the way to have sex safely will do a whole lot more . Pass out condoms where ever kids go . School "church" Social places.
The best we can do is help in prevention . You cant stop sex . Its like trying to turn the sun off .


No it's not delusional. Some will choose this path. I was on another forum the other day. People were talking about their first times, and there were quite a few who had not done it, or who were waiting till marriage, so it can be done.

Also people could abstain in the 50 and 60 and even in the seventies, so what's changed. People's will power? No society and what we allow and disallow. Same with divorce. When the penalty was jail, who got divorced? When you could get stoned in the streets for adultry, people still did it, but much fewer. When kids had harsher penalties for sex, then fewer did it. Now there are no consequences and very few reasons not to. A socity that praises promiscuity at all ages, genders, etc.

There is no reason for them to practic abstinace and yet some people in society still do. Trust me some will make this a choice if given the option. I am not saying teach this alone, but make it an opion.



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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 08:46 PM by poet1b


If you are paying attention, you will notice that Yahoo has been posting propaganda nonsense to sell products as news for quite awhile now. Internet news posted on the main sites these days is as bad as tv news these days. Anymore, anything you read posted on Yahoo is just another paid for advertisement, and google isn't any better.

What they are claiming is a sexual disease, this virus they claim causes cervix cancer, is not a sexual disease. The article is total garbage.



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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 06:43 AM by Bugman82


reply to post by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR



<-----Was taught to abstain from sex. Now, I'm 25, nearly married, and still a virgin. It was my education to abstain coupled with my faith that has encouraged me to not have sex until marriage.

Oh, and do not think I've never had the opportunity.........that's the response I receive. The proper education about abstaining and the proper education on viewing other people as of equal importance or more important than yourself is key.

[edit on 12-3-2008 by Bugman82]



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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 07:44 AM by apc


Originally posted by cavscout
This whole thing is being perpetrated by terrorist pharmaceuticals who want you to support the vaccine.

I'm afraid that's the agenda here as this statistic is nothing new or special.

Almost everybody has been exposed to and possibly contracted at some point in their lives HPV and HSV (herpes simplex). 90% of carriers are asymptomatic and spread it unknowingly. Get cold sores? You have herpes simplex type-1. HPV is the same virus that causes planters warts. Both of these viruses are spread by skin-to-skin contact so condoms are often ineffective, but can help.

The problem is zealots teaching abstinence-only sex education in public schools. Abstinence-only education causes more disease transmission and teenage pregnancy. Side-effect of failing to educate kids on contraceptives. They are going to have sex. You can either try your hardest to keep them in ignorance and suffer the consequences, or you can educate them and rest comfortable knowing they are going to be responsible when they decide to have sex.

I went to a Jesuit all-boys high school and they were realistic enough to provide unfettered unconditional factual education and honestly answered any questions the students had. Now if only they could teach their arrogant abstinence-only counterparts the proper way to educate kids about sex.



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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 08:21 AM by thisguyrighthere


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So you're saying that these kids are so pious and churchy that they would obey the church and not use rubbers but they won't obey the church and abstain until marriage?

Selective obedience? If that's the case then how the hell is it any church's fault?

The more likely case is that kids are stupid. They'll wrap themselves around telephone poles by driving like morons, they'll blow themselves up playing with fireworks, they'll hang themselves to catch a buzz, they'll sit for hours and huff gasoline. They aren't using rubbers because they're short-sighted and stupid not because some church somewhere that pushes some faith none of these kids believe anyway frowns on condom use.

Seriously man. You sound like just another "hate religion just because" guy who can't see the reality tree in the forest of your own prejudices.



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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 04:19 PM by Basilis


reply to post by NewWorldOver



I understand what you mean about other males in our generation. I'm guessing you're around 16-18 or so? It seems as though only me and a few other guys in my school don't see girls as just things.

And, it's not our fault girls always complain about wanting a nice guy, then go and date a abusive jerk.

I always feel I'm older than I am

-Will



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reply posted on 12-3-2008 @ 04:46 PM by Lucid Lunacy


For those saying it's unrealistic to think teens can abstain from sex, and or wait for marriage:

Well first off it happens all the time Although it's not the majority.

Secondly, take this out of context. You're really saying young people don't have the potential for self-control. You're saying they can't mind over matter it. Young people have will power too! They can abstain, and some do.

That said, I encourage pre-martial sex big time



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reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 01:03 PM by Royal76


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Which is why we only date the other 75%

Sorry my sarcasm reactor took over. This is why when I have a daughter she will not be allowed to date until she's 30. I'll get a big backyard with a shotgun and a shovel for the guys who come over.

The bottom line is that you can only educate them on the consequences, and hope for the best. I remember reading about a study that said that parents who talk openly about sex, and disease at a young age are much less likely to have childern who are pregnant, have a sexually transmitted disease, or have sex an age which they are not ready.



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reply posted on 14-3-2008 @ 02:09 PM by poet1b


Sex is great, enjoy life while you can. If you want to remain a virgin until you are married, then it is your choice, but I have known those who went that route, and it doesn't seem to be anymore successful than the more common method in the west of experimenting with different partners, until you find the right one. Not for me, no way.

The whole, sex is evil movement comes from the Middle East where they still believe in treating women as property. Europeans never traditionally look at sex as bad until Christianity took over, with its goal of making everything fun a sin. Then the dark ages ensued.

The more more sexually liberated Hellenists were the ones who created most of the science and technology that has advanced humanity. Sexual liberation seems to go hand in hand with cultural and scientific advancement. Look at how the Muslims, with their huge taboos against sex have become such a backwards society.



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reply posted on 15-3-2008 @ 07:46 AM by C0bzz


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L-Lysine does not treat, atleast cold sores (slightly diferant) well. I encourage everyone who gets cold sores to try it... but don't expect any miracles.



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