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Originally posted by yellowbeard
"The alarm was raised after he sent the messages to various people, which caused concern for their safety and his own, the BBC has learnt."
This line from the BBC news report is the strangest thing, why the concern for their own safety as well as his own ?
Originally posted by Freeborn
Now you are really beginning to piss me off with your antagonistic and aggresive posting.
Very easy from behind a monitor.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Now all I have said is that it would be best to wait until we know what the official line is and what evidence it is based on before starting to pull the official story to pieces and state "conspiracy".
Originally posted by Freeborn
I fail to see how this can be construed as "falling for the official story", especially as there isn't one yet to fall for.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Which contained unattributed speculations.
Sources provided:
www.bbc.co.uk...
www.timesonline.co.uk...
www.thesun.co.uk...
www.timesonline.co.uk...
Sources provided by you:
Zip.
Originally posted by Freeborn
I still stand by what I said earlier.
It may be suicide.
It my be murder.
It may be an accident.
There may be a conspiritorial angle to it.
Originally posted by Freeborn
I have never once stated that I definately believe any series of events.
There are far too many missing pieces of the jigsaw to do that.
All I have offered have been possible scenario's.
Originally posted by Freeborn
No, incorrect.
I stated on 3 seperate occasions that there MAY be a conspiracy angle to it.
Now I know I'm making the dangerous assumption that you understand the difference between "may" and "is".
Originally posted by Freeborn
Needlessly disagreeing.
Why?
Because I don't think the same as you that is deemed needlessly disagreeing?
Quite the man aren't we.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Member for 2 days.
5 posts.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by Freeborn
If there are reasonable grounds to deny the official story, when it is released, then maybe it should be related to Dr Kelly and our involvement in the ME.
Originally posted by Freeborn
I really don't understand why all the hostile responses when all I have suggested is wait until the official story is released before starting to pick it to pieces.
I suspect there is much more to be revealed yet and we all may end up having egg on our chin.
Still, wtf, as if I care.
I assure you, I have thich skin, broad shoulders and much more important things to concern myself with.
"Mr Todd has now examined all of the information available relating to this issue and has concluded that there is indeed no evidence to substantiate Liberty's allegations."
"There was no evidence that UK airports were used to transport people by the CIA for torture in other countries."
Originally posted by Cypher
Dubyakadubla,
Your post implied that Mr. Todd was murdered as a result of him presently investigating the U.S.'s rendition flights and their possible use of British airbases or airports. Am I just reading your post wrong or do you know of some ongoing investigation into this matter? Because I was under the impression that any investigation by Mr. Todd into the rendition flights had been concluded long ago.
In fact, while the UK recently admitted that two of the flights had indeed refueled at a British base at Diego Garcia, (Reuters: UK says U.S. rendition flights used Indian Ocean base) at the time of the investigation, Mr. Todd's panel found no information to that effect.
This is evidenced by an article from the 9th of June, 2007 by the BBC News which quoted Mr. Todd and the Association of Police Chiefs investigative panel as saying,
"Mr Todd has now examined all of the information available relating to this issue and has concluded that there is indeed no evidence to substantiate Liberty's allegations."
"There was no evidence that UK airports were used to transport people by the CIA for torture in other countries."
Police Reject UK Rendition Claims
Mr Yates, who carried out an investigation into rendition flights in 2005, said there was "absolutely no doubt whatsoever" that the planes have visited the UK.
"There's enough evidence in terms of photographs and logs of planes taking off and comparisons of aircraft tail numbers," he said.
"These flights tally with certain activities which took place on certain dates in other countries - the picking up of CIA suspects.
"By any definition the government has given support to the CIA in rendition flights, either by clearance through UK airspace or clearance to use our airports.
"The question as to whether any of the rendition passengers were on the planes or whether they were normal CIA flights, which do visit this country, we will never know. It's all smoke and mirrors."
Liberal Democrat foreign affairs spokesman Michael Moore said that the inquiry does not "let the government off the hook".
He said: "The government has persistently failed to ask the of the US authorities and so it is hardly a surprise that there's little new material on which the police can comment."
Police Chief's Secret Mistress Named
Police chief Michael Todd was having an affair with the chief executive of Manchester Chamber of Commerce and Industry before apparently committing suicide.
Sky sources have confirmed that Angie Robinson had been in an 18-month relationship with the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester.
[...]
A toxicology report is expected to be completed this morning, and an inquest into the 50-year-old's death opens at this afternoon at Anglesey Council Chamber.
The pathologist Dr Anthony Caslin will then discuss his preliminary findings.
Reuters U.K.
LONDON (Reuters) - An inquest into the death of police chief Michael Todd is due to open on Thursday.
The coroner has taken the unusual step of calling for a preliminary pathologist's report because of the amount of publicity surrounding the death of the Greater Manchester Police chief constable.
The 50-year-old father of three had spoken to colleagues about problems in his personal life in the days before his death, according to media reports.
But police denied reports that suicide notes had been found near the body.