posted on Mar, 20 2008 @ 02:54 PM
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by dk3000
dk3000, I had to respond to a portion of your post up above. I don't know what airline pilots you've talked to, but your comment that they
couldn't have pulled off the 9/11 attacks WITHOUT help from ATC is ludicrous! Sorry for being blunt, but it is silly.
Background: ATC is sort of a misnomer. Now, before you start shooting arrows at me, allow me to explain. Air Traffic Control is an authority
designed to have an overview of air traffic within the area of responsibility of a particular controller, and to provide guidance, and/or give
instructions to the airplanes in his/her sector in order to maintain order, provide safe separation standards, and co-ordinate the flow of traffic.
A pilot is not a slave to ATC! We both know the rules of the road, so to speak. Pilots think of themselves as 'users' of the system, a
'customer' if you will. We know what is expected of us, and we respect what the controllers do in return. There are personality clashes,
occasionally, but it isn't any different from any two professionals having a minor disagreement within their selected field.
My point is...ATC is like a traffic cop, and I apologize for that, not intended to demean the job, or the responsibilities, and there is much more
that goes on, I know...but just to make it simple, that's it. By the same token, an airline pilot is just a glorified bus driver! Yes, we have to
take a lot more tests, and our skill sets are different, but within the system, we h ave little leeway. We are pigeon-holed into the structure, and
it is designed for safety first....
guess I strayed ... the ability to hit a tall building in CAVU conditions shouldn't be the question. It is dead simple to steer an airplane in
Especially when you aren't worried about being smooth on the controls, when your only focus is a whacked-out mission of suicide/murder!
I hear you and I am not offended at all. The blunt point about my request for the video is merely because all the surveillance tapes were confiscated
and destroyed. They no longer exist- hence my point. The commission is all about evidence and those tapes would in fact be evidence which would
support the report- its all I am saying. And it would end an enormous controversy and place much of the debate where it needs to be- the examination
of evidence- which has not yet occurred. The fact that our government declared war with Iraq and Afghanistan in retaliation for those responsible for
9/11- requires according to the constitution, irrefutable evidence which would support the act of war. Not only was this evidence never shown- the
lack of continued investigation is insane- beyond belief- naturally opening up much space for controversy and conspiracy theories. Even the president
said "Let's not get caught up in wild conspiracy theories". Evidence would have prevented the president from even having to make that statement-
the fact he did says a lot in support of conspiracies.
Pilots for truth and various professional pilots expressing their knowledge are on numerous videos, DVD's, websites and such, and you know this- as
do most so to repost them is sort of redundant.
I was specifically impressed by the candor of several pilots in various magazine, newspapers and the resignation of many people in the air industry
who were just disgusted and disillusioned by the industry- and this speaks volumes to me- and it needs to because:
A. I am not a pilot and therefore know little or nothing about the abilities of major aircraft- So I must rely on their expertise until such time as I
fly an aircraft for myself.
B. When a pilot has a perfect record and is considered an expert- they have credibility and deserve our respect and attention.
The pilots I am referring to have suspiciously been linked to Prison Planet- which they were not when I began my investigation into professional
pilots and what they have to say. Most of their commentary were based on procedures that pilots follow under these conditions or similar circumstances
and given the biographies of the hijackers and their pilot training skills- what we saw could not have been possible. I must believe they know better
than we do what is possible given all of the circumstances.
So I am going on what they say- rather than drawing my own ill-informed conclusions based on no experience of my own.
I must depend on the professional experience of experts in their field. Here is a link to some pretty comprehensive studies conducted by professional
pilots and scholars for 9/11 truth: stj911.org...
Its one of the few sites that is not linked to Alex Jones and his ilk.
[edit on 20-3-2008 by dk3000]