ufo seen during endeavour live tv broadcast!!happening right now

This was about as relevant as i could find on this particular subject. Looks like it's just space debris but here is the youtube link. a few vids there.

www.youtube.com...

Looks like one of the 8,000 man-made earth orbiting objects. don't know what but it sure don't look like it is a ET driven device, However it is a great find and a great thread , The helicopter video made me insane with all the post took me 3 days to read this

Mr. Toodles:
This was about as relevant as i could find on this particular subject. Looks like it's just space debris but here is the youtube link. a few vids there.

...a generic youtube search result page, not even a specific video? How are you concluding it's just space debris when you're not even giving us a specific video, let alone the correct one, to look at?

Did you not notice the detailed summary page with the correct video in the post immediately preceeding yours? o.O

yenko13:
Looks like one of the 8,000 man-made earth orbiting objects
it sure don't look like it is a ET driven device,
The helicopter video made me insane with all the post took me 3 days to read

Ok. So, since you did read the thread, unlike the poster before you...I have two questions for you: if it's an earth orbiting object, how do you explain that the path of its "orbit" carries it away from the earth, as was pointed out in the summary on page 16? And, since it's exhibiting behavior that is not consistent with an object in orbit around the earth, and it appears to be exhibiting a trajectory change, what behavior would it have to exhibit for you to conclude that it "looks like a ET driven device?"

Or to put it another way, how did you come to your conclusions?


[edit on 18-3-2008 by LordBucket]

nice thread , just coming by ...... But this is the vid your talking about. I think this the one with cut off !! So please go on

video.google.es...

[edit on 18-3-2008 by nemo69]


[edit on 18-3-2008 by nemo69]

double post. disregard..

Thanks to those who went to the trouble to post the right links and a thousand lashes with a whip to all the wrong video posters who have made this thread more difficult to follow, besides making us all look like bumbling idiots here at ATS.

Interesting video, but far too small to be conclusive of anything.

How about someone writing NASA and asking if they can identify the object? If it is a known debris/satellite they should not have a problem putting it in writing. After all something that big could do damage to the shuttle and they should know what it is - unless.

As some others have mentioned the trajectory of the object seems to be adjacent to the orbiter at what appears to be a slightly different angle/altitude. Thus the object could indeed be in orbit - more likely in my opinion.

When I grab the play bar (with my mouse) below the video(Google version) and slide it back & forth it also appears as if the object is tumbling, but with the low resolution it could also be pulsating as we have seen other phenomena do in past videos.

The only thing that gives this object slight credibility for being extra-interesting is the fact that the video cuts out right as the object is going to pass behind the Canada robotic Arm knuckle joint that would have given us a better trajectory. It appears the angle it was traveling would have taken it out of camera view at that point anyway, unless they would have adjusted.

Since we know that the signals often cut out up there it is just as likely a coincidence - but one will always wonder.

I still think our best bet is to write NASA and unless it is unknown or classified they shouldn't have a problem telling us. Of course we would have to identify the time sequence of the footage, so they can understand what we're asking.

Oh yeah, instead of asking them from a conspiracy point of view it might help if an educational angle is used.


[edit on 19-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Three New Video frames and Video.

I made a new capture of the Endeavour STS-123 Day 1 incident directly
from my HDD recorder and these are three video frames with more
resolution. As the object seems to be flashing I selected the three
different points where the object's light is more intense. Click on the
images to see them complete.










At the same time I made a new version of the sequence also from the
HDD. I used VirtualDub to apply a zoom filter and get a best result wich
I felt satisfactory. As you can see the object seems to be flashing and
describing a descending path instead of horizontally confirming what
a member said before. I'm convinced this was a legitimate Ufo and
this is my opinion after watching the sequence in high resolution.

The new video here.

video.google.es...

Originally posted by free_spirit
As you can see the object seems to be flashing and
describing a descending path instead of horizontally confirming what
a member said before.

Well, I appreciate your attempt to to enhance the video, but all you did was introduce more artifacts by zooming the footage.

I think most of us realize we have a zoom capability on our computers and with the original footage posted previously we can get just as bad /good results as you have showed here, thus I see nothing new.

There still is not enough resolution to determine if the object is pulsating or tumbling. One thing we can agree on is that it is indeed flashing at a steady rate for 2-3 cycles in the frames provided.

As far as the trajectory is concerned the object is only descending in reference to the cameras frame or field of view and not necessarily changing altitudes in reference to the Earth. It does not change speed or direction at any time, nor does it move away or towards the earth.

Steady trajectory & steady flashing could easily be a dumb piece of space junk tumbling or a satellite.

Though we still do not know precisely what it is, so if it makes you happier it currently qualifies as a UFO for the moment, but I see nothing at this point to lead me to believe it is anything other than terrestrial origin.

Again I appreciate you and everyone else's efforts here, but at this point I've seen dozens of other footage sequences that are 100 times more spectacular or interesting than this footage - so far.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

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I tend to agree. If this video didnt go out as a live feed, people would be screaming "photoshop!" or "fake". Although the zoom in is inconclusive in my eyes, I suppose its still worth a shot.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency

Originally posted by free_spirit
As you can see the object seems to be flashing and
describing a descending path instead of horizontally confirming what
a member said before.

Well, I appreciate your attempt to to enhance the video, but all you did was introduce more artifacts by zooming the footage.

I think most of us realize we have a zoom capability on our computers and with the original footage posted previously we can get just as bad /good results as you have showed here, thus I see nothing new.

Again I appreciate you and everyone else's efforts here, but at this point I've seen dozens of other footage sequences that are 100 times more spectacular or interesting than this footage - so far.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

You are certainly exaggerating the point here maybe to pretend to be
some kind of lucky man or "expert". 100 times more spectacular ?
Really ? I don't buy that. If this is true wich I definitely doubt mention
at least three videos of that 100 times more spectacular. Just three
videos of any NASA mission still not debunked by the skeptics and
accepted as legitimate, can you do it ? Let's see if you know what
are you talking about.

You see these kind of comments like you made don't illustrate in a
discussion unless you provide some evidence here my friend. I don't
think you really know what you just said about that 100 times more
spectacular videos. 100 times ? Wow what a worldwide precedent for
the NASA ufo video database in Ufology verylowfrequency. You should be
very careful with your appreciations because 100 times is simply imposible.

Let's review at least one of these 100 times more spectacular videos if you
can provide the information, video link, photo link or whatever you may
contribute to this thread. Don't be lazy and share that spectacular video
so we can analyze it.

There are no spectacular videos from NASA, just good videos and regular
ones. All of them have been debated through the years and NASA tried
to explain them as ice particles, debris or lens flares all the time. On the
other hand people have rejected those NASA explanations many times
when the evidences suggest the opposite and some videos are considered
classic. But even that at the end there is always a reasonable doubt : the
real thing or just mundane. General opinion has been always divided.

The issue here is to present a video evidence of an incident that took
place on day 1 of the STS-123. An incident that suggest a Ufo and got
attention by the members. The issue here is to present the video
sequence to illustrate the moment as it happened on live broadcast, not
to prove without a reasonable doubt this was a real Ufo or real debris,
this will depend on everyone's judgement based on every posible
interpretation. Any attempt to provide useful information regarding
this incident is important. I have searched the Internet trying to find
a similar video from this STS-123 mission with better quality or more
clear but found nothing. Then this video sequence is exclusive for ATS.

I repeat verylowfrequency, the issue here is not to expect a spectacular
video like you said or something extremely amazing wich has not
happened yet. If you want to see a spectaular Spielberg type Ufo craft
in space you should look somewhere else because these kind of sightings
will not be allowed by NASA on live broadcast. We are just spying on
NASA trying to get those lucky seconds when something anomalous
appear by chance without NASA's censorship. These pieces of evidence
reveal that there are unknown things in space around the ISS and shuttles
that may not be spacejunk or satellites but something else.

I think you made a mistake saying 100 times more spectacular Ufo videos
from NASA wich is simply out of context. Every piece of footage has
information that may be relevant for the research. This is a serious study
not entertainment verylowfrequency.

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Don't get your panties in a wad free_spirit - sheesh. I guess thanking you for your effort wasn't enough as you must have everyone agree with your conclusions otherwise they haven't done their homework as well as you somehow.

In my opinion many of the other NASA videos that you seem to be aware of are spectacular when compared with this minuscule weak footage of of few pixels provided in here with this STS-123 footage.

Maybe my using the term "100 times more spectacular" was an exaggeration and if I had said multiple times more interesting it might be more accurate and fit with your approval (as if I need it) and maybe you wouldn't have whined so loudly.

I'm entitled to my opinion as much as anyone else here and I think this footage is weak in comparison to other known NASA footage that I'm not going to waste my time comparing too or taking this thread further off.

I have done my research spent countless hours in front of the screens to analyze anomalies and I have traveled thousands of miles on multiple occasions, stayed in Titusville, Orlando, & Coco Beach just to view & research Live Launches and speak with NASA employees, private NASA contractors, astronauts and their support teams. So, your contention that I'm FOS is clearly BS.

I was trying to be nice without stepping too harshly on your work, but I see that approach doesn't fly with you.

The footage enhancement you presented is pretty worthless and proves nothing. Go back to work and find some higher resolution images and make your case or quit wasting our time with your worthless distorted shoddy enhancements and wishful conclusions. Caveat Emptor.


[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by free_spirit

 

Don't get your panties in a wad free_spirit - sheesh. I guess thanking you for your effort wasn't enough as you must have everyone agree with your conclusions otherwise they haven't done their homework as well as you somehow.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Well finally you agree and I was right. Saying you have seen NASA videos
100 times more spectacular was a definitive exaggeration. There are no
NASA videos 100 times more spectacular because that would imply to
multiply the size of the object (s) 100 times as well as video resolution
or something like that. As I said good videos or regular but for somebody
may be great, amazing or spectacular depending everyone's interpretation.

The videos I posted were the references to the original report and I said
that in my post. I also said that the final result was very bad in terms of
quality and resolution and I was very dissapointed. I had reasons to say
this because I recorded from satellite the day 1 mission and the quality
of the direct signal is quite good. However when capturing and uploading
to Google video like YouTube the final result is simply awful. But the
members were asking to see the footage with so much interest that
I decided to post the sequence anyway as reference. The members
were pleased and gave me some thumbs up. Check the thread.

Now you see what I mean. I don't claim this is a great footage or a
definitive proof of anyhting. I responded to the members request on
this thread wich is a colaboration among all of us. I also expressed
my opinion wich is my right. You mentioned:
How about someone writing NASA and asking if they can identify the object?

Are you serious ? Do you really belive NASA will care to answer the
question? Then why don't you do it yourself. Contact NASA and try to
get a response from them. In our experience we know what NASA would
say: Piece of debris, period. Would you accept their explanation ? Fine.
But the transmission was interrupted right ?

I'm satisfied with my contribution in this thread despite the fact that you
did'nt like the videos or maybe expected something different. However
you indeed recognized the efforts by saying: Thanks to those who went to
the trouble to post the right links.

If you get a response from NASA regarding this video sequence from
STS-123 Day 1 please share with us their comments. Just one final
suggestion. Try to show some respect and avoid saying things like:
Don't get your panties in a wad. This kind of language is vulgar and
certainly not for a serious ATS member. Best regards.

reply to post by free_spirit


Nice response free_spirit, thank you.

I guess our conclusions are more alike than not in regards to the video & this event.

Our only differences seem to be more through loss of clear communication and I apologize for my sometimes weak & lazy writing skills which led to my exaggeration, that I felt you were being over critical of - thus I flung a little unnecessary discourse back your way - for that I apologize.

Anyway I'll consider writing NASA, but I'm not sure I have enough time & patience it would take to do right.

Again thanks, and who knows maybe we'll get lucky and stumble on some clearer video yet.

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Great post and I saw what you were saying about the first vid too

as much as i would like it to be something extraterrestrial it appears to me like something rotating, spinning in space that is falling away from another part of the shuttle. I have a lot of experience watching blurry videos (yes I know thats solid backup evidence lol) and if you look closely you can see one end rotating towards the other end, continuously like a falling object.
just my opinion. some kind of debris. if it was moving quicker or not flipping over then i would not say this however

reply to post by free_spirit


you only showed caps when it is in the same position, if you had showed more in between movement caps like in the video you would show that it appears to be spinning or rotating like a falling object still. in my opinion. the light source is shining brightly on the object when it is reflecting greater. then when it spins it darkens due to the other side being faced in a different direction, then it spins again and it looks brighter etc.

reply to post by PureET


i was there watching it go up, it was a helo, the video is just moving fast

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by PureET


Good thing; the video is removed now....care to upload it and share? Now I am curious!

www.youtube.com...[/yvid]

Lots of ufos from Shuttle Discovery

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