Looks like one of the 8,000 man-made earth orbiting objects. don't know what but it sure don't look like it is a ET driven device, However it is a great find and a great thread , The helicopter video made me insane with all the post took me 3 days to read this

Mr. Toodles:
This was about as relevant as i could find on this particular subject. Looks like it's just space debris but here is the youtube link. a few vids there.

...a generic youtube search result page, not even a specific video? How are you concluding it's just space debris when you're not even giving us a specific video, let alone the correct one, to look at?

Did you not notice the detailed summary page with the correct video in the post immediately preceeding yours? o.O

yenko13:
Looks like one of the 8,000 man-made earth orbiting objects
it sure don't look like it is a ET driven device,
The helicopter video made me insane with all the post took me 3 days to read

Ok. So, since you did read the thread, unlike the poster before you...I have two questions for you: if it's an earth orbiting object, how do you explain that the path of its "orbit" carries it away from the earth, as was pointed out in the summary on page 16? And, since it's exhibiting behavior that is not consistent with an object in orbit around the earth, and it appears to be exhibiting a trajectory change, what behavior would it have to exhibit for you to conclude that it "looks like a ET driven device?"

Or to put it another way, how did you come to your conclusions?


[edit on 18-3-2008 by LordBucket]

double post. disregard..

Thanks to those who went to the trouble to post the right links and a thousand lashes with a whip to all the wrong video posters who have made this thread more difficult to follow, besides making us all look like bumbling idiots here at ATS.

Interesting video, but far too small to be conclusive of anything.

How about someone writing NASA and asking if they can identify the object? If it is a known debris/satellite they should not have a problem putting it in writing. After all something that big could do damage to the shuttle and they should know what it is - unless.

As some others have mentioned the trajectory of the object seems to be adjacent to the orbiter at what appears to be a slightly different angle/altitude. Thus the object could indeed be in orbit - more likely in my opinion.

When I grab the play bar (with my mouse) below the video(Google version) and slide it back & forth it also appears as if the object is tumbling, but with the low resolution it could also be pulsating as we have seen other phenomena do in past videos.

The only thing that gives this object slight credibility for being extra-interesting is the fact that the video cuts out right as the object is going to pass behind the Canada robotic Arm knuckle joint that would have given us a better trajectory. It appears the angle it was traveling would have taken it out of camera view at that point anyway, unless they would have adjusted.

Since we know that the signals often cut out up there it is just as likely a coincidence - but one will always wonder.

I still think our best bet is to write NASA and unless it is unknown or classified they shouldn't have a problem telling us. Of course we would have to identify the time sequence of the footage, so they can understand what we're asking.

Oh yeah, instead of asking them from a conspiracy point of view it might help if an educational angle is used.


[edit on 19-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by free_spirit
As you can see the object seems to be flashing and
describing a descending path instead of horizontally confirming what
a member said before.

Well, I appreciate your attempt to to enhance the video, but all you did was introduce more artifacts by zooming the footage.

I think most of us realize we have a zoom capability on our computers and with the original footage posted previously we can get just as bad /good results as you have showed here, thus I see nothing new.

There still is not enough resolution to determine if the object is pulsating or tumbling. One thing we can agree on is that it is indeed flashing at a steady rate for 2-3 cycles in the frames provided.

As far as the trajectory is concerned the object is only descending in reference to the cameras frame or field of view and not necessarily changing altitudes in reference to the Earth. It does not change speed or direction at any time, nor does it move away or towards the earth.

Steady trajectory & steady flashing could easily be a dumb piece of space junk tumbling or a satellite.

Though we still do not know precisely what it is, so if it makes you happier it currently qualifies as a UFO for the moment, but I see nothing at this point to lead me to believe it is anything other than terrestrial origin.

Again I appreciate you and everyone else's efforts here, but at this point I've seen dozens of other footage sequences that are 100 times more spectacular or interesting than this footage - so far.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by verylowfrequency

Originally posted by free_spirit
As you can see the object seems to be flashing and
describing a descending path instead of horizontally confirming what
a member said before.

Well, I appreciate your attempt to to enhance the video, but all you did was introduce more artifacts by zooming the footage.

I think most of us realize we have a zoom capability on our computers and with the original footage posted previously we can get just as bad /good results as you have showed here, thus I see nothing new.

Again I appreciate you and everyone else's efforts here, but at this point I've seen dozens of other footage sequences that are 100 times more spectacular or interesting than this footage - so far.

[edit on 20-3-2008 by verylowfrequency]

You are certainly exaggerating the point here maybe to pretend to be
some kind of lucky man or "expert". 100 times more spectacular ?
Really ? I don't buy that. If this is true wich I definitely doubt mention
at least three videos of that 100 times more spectacular. Just three
videos of any NASA mission still not debunked by the skeptics and
accepted as legitimate, can you do it ? Let's see if you know what
are you talking about.

You see these kind of comments like you made don't illustrate in a
discussion unless you provide some evidence here my friend. I don't
think you really know what you just said about that 100 times more
spectacular videos. 100 times ? Wow what a worldwide precedent for
the NASA ufo video database in Ufology verylowfrequency. You should be
very careful with your appreciations because 100 times is simply imposible.

Let's review at least one of these 100 times more spectacular videos if you
can provide the information, video link, photo link or whatever you may
contribute to this thread. Don't be lazy and share that spectacular video
so we can analyze it.

There are no spectacular videos from NASA, just good videos and regular
ones. All of them have been debated through the years and NASA tried
to explain them as ice particles, debris or lens flares all the time. On the
other hand people have rejected those NASA explanations many times
when the evidences suggest the opposite and some videos are considered
classic. But even that at the end there is always a reasonable doubt : the
real thing or just mundane. General opinion has been always divided.

The issue here is to present a video evidence of an incident that took
place on day 1 of the STS-123. An incident that suggest a Ufo and got
attention by the members. The issue here is to present the video
sequence to illustrate the moment as it happened on live broadcast, not
to prove without a reasonable doubt this was a real Ufo or real debris,
this will depend on everyone's judgement based on every posible
interpretation. Any attempt to provide useful information regarding
this incident is important. I have searched the Internet trying to find
a similar video from this STS-123 mission with better quality or more
clear but found nothing. Then this video sequence is exclusive for ATS.

I repeat verylowfrequency, the issue here is not to expect a spectacular
video like you said or something extremely amazing wich has not
happened yet. If you want to see a spectaular Spielberg type Ufo craft
in space you should look somewhere else because these kind of sightings
will not be allowed by NASA on live broadcast. We are just spying on
NASA trying to get those lucky seconds when something anomalous
appear by chance without NASA's censorship. These pieces of evidence
reveal that there are unknown things in space around the ISS and shuttles
that may not be spacejunk or satellites but something else.

I think you made a mistake saying 100 times more spectacular Ufo videos
from NASA wich is simply out of context. Every piece of footage has
information that may be relevant for the research. This is a serious study
not entertainment verylowfrequency.

as much as i would like it to be something extraterrestrial it appears to me like something rotating, spinning in space that is falling away from another part of the shuttle. I have a lot of experience watching blurry videos (yes I know thats solid backup evidence lol) and if you look closely you can see one end rotating towards the other end, continuously like a falling object.
just my opinion. some kind of debris. if it was moving quicker or not flipping over then i would not say this however