OK, government conspiracies are real. Aliens are probably real. Shadow govt./Illuminati is real.


What does X-files talk about? SHADOW GOVT., ALIENS, GOVT. CONSPIRACIES!


But X-Files is not QUITE like it is in reality.


But, think about it.


I start talking about government conspiracies, aliens, shadow govt., and they ask me if I'd been watching too much X-files.


The best way to cover something up is to have people associate it with fiction.


Aliens are associated with sci-fi, mind control with tinfoil hats, govt. conspiracies with X-Files.

All are twisted stereotypes of the truth that cause the masses to ridicule the truth.


Put the ENTIRE contents of Area 51 on a movie set, and, if some Area 51 employee blows the whistle, they will probably think of him as a nerd who watches too much TV.


Best hiding place is in the open; easier to hide illegal drugs in a medicine cabinet than a fireproof safe just to site an example.

I deliberately STAY AWAY from X-files, because it was DESIGNED to confuse the public. Watching it, even for fun, is a bad idea.

Originally posted by thetruth777
I deliberately STAY AWAY from X-files, because it was DESIGNED to confuse the public. Watching it, even for fun, is a bad idea.

Why is that?


"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."

Vladimir Lenin

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."

A lie told as the truth becomes the truth.

The truth told as a joke becomes a joke.

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."

A lie told as the truth becomes the truth.

The truth (or close to it) told as a joke becomes a joke.

Your whole post sounds like drunken rambling. Perhaps there are similarities between fiction and supposed real life conspiracies...ok. But are you proposing that there is a conspiracy to disinform the public by providing them with "fiction" that is actually "real," but by making it "fiction" then they'll never be able to swallow the "truth?" Maybe thats not what you meant. But if you did, it all sounds a little convoluted.

Someone once said the best way to hide a secret is in front of everyone around. Why? Because people think that the government will keep secrets behind a 12 ton locked vault. That is just how we as the citizens think. We think the government will not let us in on the secrets but they already have and we have not realized it.

If they're hiding the secrets right in front of our faces and you guys are privy to their strategy, you'd all be doing everyone here a service by elucidating to us their deep, dark secrets.

Originally posted by thetruth777 Watching it, even for fun, is a bad idea.

I, and I'm sure many others, disagree. I've only seen a few episodes, but it seems like a great show. And it should not be blamed. I love science fiction. Maybe it confuses people, but that's their own fault.

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the show had a spinoff called the lone gunmen. ever heard of it? anyway, the pilot episode was quite interesting... certainly not dis info... you should really check it out... REALLY!!!

I hated the X Files until I saw the XFiles movie. Conspiracy theory andalien whatsits didn't come til like a few years later, though. I think the OP has a point.

"There are two teams, the white and the black, passing a ball.

Keep an eye on how many times the white team passes their ball....

........

Okay, did you count how many times the white team passed the ball?

It doesn't matter. Did you see the gorilla???"

Many of you saw that video on how disinfo works... and I think it's the same way here. I don't really think it was DESIGNED to be that way. I'm sure H.G. Welles didn't write The Time Machine just to throw everyone off the tracks because they actually had a real time machine. So... I mean, people activelyy think about things of a fantastical nature... but in today's world, I think that when works of fiction get too close to the truth, it helps whoever's agenda by indirectly influencing the flow of that show's success so that it becomes as widely known as possible, and in dopoing so, the widest audience possible gets the message that, since it's only TV, it's not real.

It's weird how we think that, yet at the same time, we also confide in our televisions to keep us informed of what's going on around us. It's like... the television creates this vortex of swirling opposing thoughts in our head, so we can never fully comprehend what is really going on because we're torn between reaality and fiction, and which pleases us more to watch...

X Files is just an innocent show, I agree... but it's been used and abused... and nobody even knows anymore what to believe, so they choose not to believe any of it. Most people leave the unknown behind once they've stopped being entertained by it. Too bad, because the unknown is where we're headed, reguardless. They're just wastig their time clinging onto familiar things.

The truth is out there, not on television.

So was STAR WARS made to secretly debunk all those claims of Jedi sightings in the 70's. Perhaps some solid proof to back up claims would help people aviod being thrown into the "X-files watching nut" pigeon hole. The world we live in seems to need things called "evidence" and "proof" when it comes to this sort of thing.
How many people where inspired to persue UFO research or investigation from X-files, how many people where introduced to this Topic for the first time by this show, it cuts both ways.
Off the cuff remarks like "you watch to much x-files" are a polite way of saying i don't believe you, what you are saying sounds like fiction, i am unsure of you"....thats why you need proof.

Originally posted by atlasastro
How many people where inspired to persue UFO research or investigation from X-files, how many people where introduced to this Topic for the first time by this show, it cuts both ways.

my thoughts exactly! i think anyone would be an idiot to believe any show they see on television, regardless the subject matter. what it did for me [and i'm sure countless others] it got my mind working and freeing itself from naive and gullible misconceptions and misinformation.

for example, the X-Files episode, "The Truth", talks about how in 2012 aliens would be returning to earth for a freaky showdown. i remember after watching that episode, i wondered why they picked such an exact date as December 21, 2012. so i looked up that day online, and BAM, there's a whole lot of "pseudo-truth" conspiracies about what might actually happen on that day. i wasn't much into aliens, conspiracy theories, or the paranormal, so i took it as "oh, that explains why the X-Files chose that date."

two years later, i worked in a coffee shop with a guy who brought up the 2012 conspiracy, and we talked for hours and hours about it and everything else. he told me about ATS, and that is how i got here and how i found a whole lot of information. now, it's kinda addicting.

anything that makes you think [and doesn't kill you] is probably not too bad for you.

*Edited for early morning flubbocks.

[edit on 13-3-2008 by banyan]

This thread reminds me of something said in the movie "the matrix".
Apparently in order for the matrix to exist, the people plugged in would have to be aware of it's artificial nature on some level. In other words, they would choose what to believe, even if they were not consciously aware of the choice.

Maybe we are being presented with the facts in our forms of media, but are not fully aware of them.
Or maybe this nonsense is only true in the movies.

Doesn't David Icke now believe in the artificial reality/matrix theory?

I agree with you 1000% percent. I myself cite Will Smith as a classic example of this: all of his films usually help the general public dismiss a legitimate concern in the conspiracy community. For example:

Independence Day: alien invasion
Enemy of the State: Big Brother
Men in Black: obviously
I Am Legend: global wipeout
I, Robot: technology overtakes us

I have a further theory that some of his less action-oriented work exists for the same reason on a deeper social level: inner-city youth in the upper middle class, fictionalizing the life of Ali, poverty-stricken black man rises to success - messages a racist media wants branded into the public's subconscious as fiction and clearly fiction.