We're only human. Before you know it everything will be a sin. Being alive will mean you have to kill yourself to save yourself.
I say live your life as good as possible and if you make mistakes hopefully you learn from them and better yourself. The Vatican can kiss my @#S.

Does anyone else think they will use the genetical alterations one to hinder science with gene therapy and stem cell research? As if they haven't enough already! Now they are trying to make it official.

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Let me go way out in left field as I often times do , and look at that list. Then think about the prophesied coming antichrist. Everyone will think they're a sinner and repent to the antichrist after it performs miracles to prove it's the Messiah.

I tried to live my life as righteous as I can, but have I "created poverty" by not tipping a waiter enough?????? Almost everyone on this planet falls into one of those categories.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the original seven deadly sins already cover these "new" sins. The new ones are not necessary, so what's the real point?

Did that make any freakin' sense?

Peace

the vatican are running behind the population all the time, they are in cloud cuckoo land!

they move the goal posts to suit the people to look like they are in touch with the real world!

also it disgusts me that they suddenly decided to discard limbo,

leaving hundreds /thousands maybe more likely millions of parents wondering why they had been worrying for decades about the children they lost at birth hovering around in no mans land!

i might add i feel sorry for those people that beleived that!

Makes plenty sense Dr. Love. Guess Moses was juiced when he got the first ten on Mt. Sinai. Now not composting will send you straight to hell.
Moogly Googly.
The limbo thing, yeah, that one always got me. Gray to white soul circulating in a great white turbine/pressure cooker, lovely.

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I'm pretty sure if there is a hell, I'm already committed to it. No need to add a new list of sins, I've covered most of them already anyway. Now pardon me whilst I covet thy neighbors wife. Again.

This is so unbelievably BOGUS. In my opinion, what is listed as a sin from the beginning is a sin. Now a bunch of dudes getting together to create "new sins" doesnt seem to hold any validity to me. Lets say that one of the guys wants to say that eating oranges is a sin. So that means that from now on, if anyone eats oranges, thats a sin. This just doesnt add up to me. I think it should be a sin to keep such detailed records in history a secret from the public. How about that one Mr. Head of the Vatican Archives?

Shouldnt they have addressed these topics before they delved into the realm of molestation? What are people going to think of this? I, for one, think its a crock that they belive that they are above God and can impose their will on anyone they choose. I'll be mindful of the things addressed, but as for seeing them as sins, sorry guys, unless I get the memo from God, I'm gonna keep doin what I do.

Morally dubious? Give me a break. They already trumped themselves on that one... And as Nemethesis put it..

Originally posted by Nemithesis

And now Pope Benedict XVI adds in...
8. "Bioethical" violations such as birth control
9. "Morally dubious" experiments such as stem cell research
10. Drug abuse
11. Polluting the environment
12. Contributing to widening divide between rich and poor
13. Excessive wealth
14. Creating poverty

I don't know if it's such a good idea to start using more than one word to describe a sin, you might want to have a lawyer look them over...
...oh but that would make you guilty of sin #12, never mind.

What to do...

Step away from the orange, step away. The vatican was screwed after they took out JP1, and JP2 was in on it. Carnival hucksters.
If I don't bloody well go to the gates of hell now/ Lose all hope now ye who enter these gates, I suppose I never will. Unless I do weird things with a giggling elmo.

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While I have no problem with the Vatican customizing their religion as they see fit, I would suggest that in order to simplify and thereby not pollute the earth any further, they consider reducing the number of sins.

It would be far less complicated to explain and keep up with God's plan if we just reduce it to one sin.

How about: It is a sin to intentionally harm another person.

[Harming yourself is OK and will eventually reduce your strain on the rest of the population.]

This coming from organization paying out 1/2 billion in damages to people abused by clergy. Talk about priorities. The Roman Catholic church, like all religion, needs to be dissolved. I cannot believe the hypocrisy of these douche bags. Anyone stupid enough to follow any directive given by such a useless, pathetic, self absorbed organization deserves no pity in my books.

brill

I think the guy is just trying to get the billion Catholics in the world to treat the world around them like God told man to treat their own bodies - like a temple. I’m not a Catholic but the sentiment makes sense to me. Who cares if you do not believe it is a sin or not – he is speaking to Catholics. It still makes the Earth a better place to live. We only have one world to live on so it seems common sense to me that destroying the environment with pollution is hurting the lives of people, which seems to go against Jesus's commandment of "Doing unto others".

It was mentioned earlier that in Genesis, mankind was given doninion over the earth, as a caretaker. That didn't give him the right to dump toxic waste though. And in the END, God promises to destroy those who destroy the Earth.

Since "There is nothing new under the sun", I'm pretty sure "Love your neighbor as yourself" pretty much covers it.

The genetic manipulation stuff was laid out in the first five books of the OT, the book of Enoch and the book of Jasher: Paraphrasing; "When men learned the blending of different species and thus provoked the LORD." Big NO NO to mess with His Software.

obscenely wealthy? wouldnt that just be considered using my god given talents in an efficient way? spose that ill still be a sinner if i fork over my 10%?

hmmm

the vatican is clutching at straws to try and keep its dwindling amount of church goers on side.

priests are a commodity to the vatican too, as they are 'the men on the ground', gathering the monies which further enrich the head of the catholic church.

why is there a shortage of priests? many have been retired due to old age or child abuse cases. this, the latter, makes many young people feel afraid to join a church that has a "stigma-NOT a "stigmata"

if i was a young man and wanted to follow a spiritual life in a church, i certainly would not pick the r.c. (not in caps)!

unless i were a very hungry,ladder climbing person. then i would be the same as all the others in the vatican(not in caps)- wouldn't I? wanting to move up the ladder in order to gain power.

no wonder the r.c.(not in caps1) has lost its followers!

the vatican seem to be showing some jealousy of John Paul II by trying to debunk his beatification of Padre Pio , also they are trying to do the same with John Paul II, as pretty much all catholics around the world would regard him as a possible saint , as he fits the criteria..

Without anyone needing to try, the Roman Catholic Church has effectively shot itself in the Papal Foot.

If the original Commandment from God said 'Dominion over the Earth', as outlined in the post above, how is this now a Sin? Is sin transitory, changeable or situational?

Yes, in a sense it is. It was more of a Sin to covet your neighbor's horse and ox when those were essential for life. It was a hanging offense to steal a horse in the Old West. Without your horse you were dead.

We have plenty of cars, and public transportation. So it's a minor felony to steal a car (one's modern horse) and kids do it to joyride.

If GOD made the first set of 10 Commandments, then he'd look ahead and be sure he didn't make a Commandment that was going to be, uh "outdated" in a few thousand years, now, would he?

But according to the Roman Catholic Church, God is looking a little short-sighted... OR, is it that the Bible was written by men?

Whatever the truth the RCC has now made it puzzling, open to questions like the above. You don't know what to believe; or you're asking questions where you had a presumably clear covenant, before.

What's 'excessive wealth'. Is not the RCC and their top Acolytes now guilty of excessive wealth - golden robes, Pope-mobile, 10 layers of footmen and service people? Maybe the RCC should start divesting and donating that money to the poor, and downsize?

Oh-oh. Downsize? Yikes..."We didnt' mean 'us'".

I'm thinking we'll be seeing The RCC printing a retraction in the Sunday NYTimes.




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can any one tell me, is the r.c. the only mainstream religion that has an obesely rich coffer as its head office?

I love the one about drugs. So much for wine!

Someone needs to beat that fool with his stupid hat.

This 'sin list' is pathetic. Some euro-centric Marxist Cardinals were probably in the catecombs smoking something they shouldn't have been ... and in their whacky-weed haze decided to make their political viewpoints into 'cardinal sins'. and double

8. "Bioethical" violations such as birth control

This 'sin' of birth control has been part of the Catholic Church belief for hundreds of years. (it was the Protestant belief as well - up until the start of the 1900's). Onanism isn't new.

10. Drug abuse

Drug abuse is a 'cardinal sin'? Poppycock. They aren't taking into account that people use drugs for many different psychological reasons and people have physical addictions. Double poppycock. (jeeeze ... they really ought to get an education on basic psychology) HEY .. and alcohol is a drug. They best be using grape juice instead of wine during communion. There is a potential for 'abuse' afterall.

11. Polluting the environment

Then EVERYONE who farts would be guilty .. and anyone who drinks milk would be guilty too (cows farting make up a whole lotta greenhouse gas ... REALLY!) This gets a

12. Contributing to widening divide between rich and poor
13. Excessive wealth
14. Creating poverty

Straight out of the Marxist manifesto.

I smell anti-christ set up. THAT is the conspiracy here. Well .. that and anti-american euro-centric marxist cardinals (I can't stand those guys) - but that's discussion for another thread.