Royal Order of Jesters testify about Illegal Drugs, Child Prostitution, page 10

reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 07:47 PM by pacificwind Originally posted by yankeerose Are there any Official Freemason texts, or a Mason handbook that are available to the public? They are a secret society, and their manuals are copyrighted... so I do not think that there would be such a book that could be quoted without breaking the law. Yes, lots of them. You can find every single ritual you want to. Everything. You can even go look through the records of your town lodge, most of them keep archives at the universities close to them. Nothing is officially freemason, of course, because there is no "official freemason" body that speaks for everyone. There are texts published by state grand lodges, which are the "official" texts for that state. Originally posted by yankeerose Also, I am just telling you the way it was when the Shriners were in town. It wasn't the parades and such people were worried about... it was the drunken Shriners that were in every bar, massage parlor, and hotel in the downtown area... that's what people were concerned about. And there were hundreds of them, all in their little Ali Baba outfits raising hell...lol I guess it's hard for me to respect any organization, once you have seen them behave that way in public. I have no doubt that you are over exaggerating because, as we have seen, you see the world with a very radical pair of glasses. I have been to many academic conventions, and let me tell you, those darn professors and graduate students were in every bar, massage parlor, and hotel in the towns they hold conferences in. Do you get frightened when people who share the same characteristic congregate? According to your logic, anytime people congregate and share a characteristic they should be feared, and oh, all non-masons share the same characteristics (since the masons do, according to your logic). I hope you also cower in fear anywhere large masses of non-masons (most of the population) gather. Originally posted by yankeerose I do not hate Shriners... I just think they are racist, sexist, adulterous, liars, that think they are above the law. I came to that conclusion by observing, and working with them for years. And before you even ask... no I never met one who wasn't. The irony amazes me. I'm amazed at such bigoted statements. Will you next tell me that all black people are criminals and stupid, or all white people are rednecks and illiterate? One day I hope you realize that generalizing to an entire group of people based on what you HEARD (since mommy kept you inside, you didn't even see any of this - its all hearsay) is not only bound to be incorrect, but it demonstrates a lack of critical thinking. Originally posted by yankeerose So say what you will about me, try and discredit me, do what you do best... but the truth still stands. It is MY truth based on MY experiences dealing with Freemasons both at work and socially... and there isn't anything you can do to change it. There is no need to discredit you. Your statements do it on your own. The truth still stands that you have demonstrated a shocking lack of knowledge about even the most basics of masonry (like the fact that there is no relationship between Skull and Bones and freemasonry). Then, you expect everyone to believe you when you start telling us **all shriners** are any number of horrible things...because mommy kept you inside when you were young. It is your truth, and only your truth. Because reality is much different. No one is trying to change your view because your radical bigoted agenda is quite clear. You are not here to discuss anything except forcing your agenda on everyone else. [edit on 10-3-2008 by pacificwind]

This is funny, I only stumbled across this website the other day.. I must say its an awesome source for information.

But this is not an isolated case, I live in the UK and my great grandad was a FreeMason and he also told me that the ROJ is a dirty side to FreeMasons..