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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 05:37 AM by jfj123

reply to post by mikesingh

well if we received a response in 27 years that means the max distance of the receiving civilization would be 13.5 light years away. Has anyone searched for any target stars, systems, planets in that cone range up to 13.5 light years? If so, what have they found?

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 05:43 AM by Enceladus

As usual very interesting subject Mike; thanks for sharing your work

Starred and flagged

As you said, its hard for armatures to make these types of crop circles in one night; These are some of my favorites

Finally

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 07:03 AM by Politikillix

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 07:08 AM by squiz

If you've seen these before, forgive me for posting them once again, but I feel it is important and an important clue to understanding the meaning.
I found these myself through my research on the subject.
There is a basic underlying message, the language is resonance, everything is frequency, they are telling us something very important that science is only beginning to realize in practical applications.

These glyphs are a visual representation of particular frequencies. The images are compared to cymatic experiments from liquids or sand being subjected to certain frequencies.

Crop Circles, Cymatics and the Fractal Universe

I've since found more information to support this theory, It also has led me to a new understanding of reality.
Message received.

Perhaps the skeptics should talk to some of the human circle makers, you may be surprised with what you hear. The human element is part of the enigma.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 08:42 AM by ArMaP

reply to post by squiz

I think those shapes are used because they easy to create, some of the ones you posted are like the ones I used to do at school when I was bored (that gave me much practise

).

With only a compass and a ruler (or just with a string and some means of fixing it to specific points, a method that can also be used on the field) some of those designs can be made with less than 20 circles.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 08:53 AM by angelc01

reply to post by squiz

The truth is right around the corner

Harmonics is one of the puzzles in the study of UFO's in which sound frequencies are related with light intensities and gravity.
Governments have been experimenting with this for years and still are in many different facets.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 09:39 AM by squiz

Look at the first image, it has spirals in opposing directions. The golden ratio, not circles. They would have to have been done freely without ropes. Human attempts at this scale result in a stepped looking curve not the smooth perfect arcs you can see in that example. Hardly easy to do at that scale.

Just because they can be doodled on paper does nothing to resolve this amazing coincidence. The resonance connection is not a widely known fact, even amongst the serious researchers.
An incredible coincidence or.... something else.

As I said above, listen to what the circle makers say.

Caryn: I noticed from your website that several folk mention observed anomalous occurrences whilst crop-circle making. Can you discuss your own experiences?

John: The thing I’ve most commonly experienced is very bright localized flashes of light, like a flash gun being held up to my face. Twice we’ve had journalists along with us and they’ve experienced the same phenomena. I’ve also seen a silent structured craft in the sky above Alton Barnes. It was a elongated cigar shape and read as a dark shadow in the sky blocking out the stars behind it as it moved in a arc from left to right across my field of vision. It would have been easy to miss, it was only because we’d stopped working on the circle for a while as there were people nearby, so we were all crouched down in a tramline waiting for them to leave. That’s when I spotted it. To be honest it’s quite amusing to see something like that when you’re part way through creating a design. I don’t know what it was, aliens from out of space, inter-dimensional beings, military black project, or another group of artists showcasing their latest creation, who knows…

Confessions of a Circle Maker

This is just one example, others have reported similar events including missing time, synchronicity of design (there designs appearing elsewhere) or even having there designs completed for them, many have seen the orbs and flashes of light, some say they feel compelled to make them. I believe there is some subconscious communication taking place.

Of course there are those that wish to prove it can be done, this group usually have the sloppiest results. Many are not doing it as an attempt to fool people, some, like the circle makers are artists, others treat it as a ritual.

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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 09:43 AM by jbmitch

I'm pretty well convienced (for reasons of my own) that is/are other intelligent life forms other than ours. I'm not sure whether they feel the human race is worth salvaging as it appears that we are self distructive by nature. Imagine us in a peatri dish of agar and some alien looking through a micro scope saying OMG! we cant let tis loose in our world.

The best explaination that makes long distance space travel (that I've heard about) fisable is via Einstein's folded space theory. And as some mention earlier in this thread to travel from warp to warp you have to wait for the co-ordinates to match up to end in our part of the galaxy (not just pointing a starship to the far side of our milky way. I suspect that their are "nodes" that reoccur in deep space that connect with other parts of the universe and others races have managed to travel through this warps in space.
As far as the crop circle being a hoax (meaning of human origin) may or may not invalidate the message contained within,, i.e somebody knows somehting and is trying to tell us,,,,,,

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 11:04 AM by unknownfrost

wtg mike! always good posts by you! starred and flagged! Also a star for olegkvasha! I saw your first pic and I said 'OMG!!! thats the radio thingy of theirs!' lol

This....wow....amazes me. And there are people out there that say we are alone...NO WAY!

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 11:21 AM by IMAdamnALIEN

reply to post by squiz

Man,
You should really make a separate thread for those findings.

That in itself needs further investigation.

Well done putting the visuals together!

I on board with the frequency thing, that makes the most logical sense for the unexplainable formations and attributes in wheat.

Great stuff here!

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 11:27 AM by IMAdamnALIEN

reply to post by squiz

Yet another fabulous post.

Never heard of that story with the circle maker.

It really sounds like to me.......That the circle makers are unintentionally communicating with a extraterrestrial beings.

Think about it...

Doesn't matter who started it...The fact remains.....There are still unexplainable formations and attributes out there...

So if the circle makers started it, the ETs are responding to them. If the ET's started it we are responding to them.

I think thats logical, yes?

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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 12:16 PM by freighttrain

Great post thank you, I do believe this is a message from aliens trying to display themselves to public. I really like to see a "proof" that this is done by man... show me a single video that catches these groups of people doing these complex formations overnight! As far as I'm concern this is just another way of communicating with us, don't say they never tried!

UFO creating crop circle
youtube.com...

Mayan Calender crop circle
youtube.com...

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 12:54 PM by Lunica

Mike does it again.

Thanks for this intreging thread.

As the thread is also going into the cropcrikel phenomenon, this is maybe also a an example of a connection between multiple cropcrikels.

Video part one
Link 1

Video part two
Link 2

Wiki page
Link 3

I can't tell or deside this is also the real deal. But the fact the "writer" of this comes with a LOT of examples with a very good explanation... well... why not?

Greetings

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 01:01 PM by rexpop

Originally posted by sotp
Much as though the English still cling to delusions of imperial grandeur they are not that big a deal anymore! (I mean as a world power - no offence to any Sassenachs intended!).

Woah! Mondo insulting, dude. I don't even know what the heck a Sassenach is, but I sure don't consider myself one. And few "English" "cling to delusions of imperial grandeur" and we are still a major player on the world stage. How the hell could you not mean that offensively?

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 01:12 PM by kennethmd

reply to post by jfj123

Try Epsilon Eridiani 10.5 Ly. But it is not comfirm. Gliese 876 15.3Ly. Have been comfirm. But haven't found any Earth like planet.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 01:25 PM by freighttrain

Originally posted by kennethmd
reply to post by jfj123

Try Epsilon Eridiani 10.5 Ly. But it is not comfirm. Gliese 876 15.3Ly. Have been comfirm. But haven't found any Earth like planet.

from my understand we have recently discovered hundereds of earth like planets with moons! did I not get this right?

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 01:44 PM by kennethmd

Originally posted by freighttrain

Originally posted by kennethmd
reply to post by jfj123

Try Epsilon Eridiani 10.5 Ly. But it is not comfirm. Gliese 876 15.3Ly. Have been comfirm. But haven't found any Earth like planet.

from my understand we have recently discovered hundereds of earth like planets with moons! did I not get this right?

That haven't been comfirm. But highly likely there is a Earth type planet orbiting other star systems like Sol. But the aliens that sent the message. Most likely wasn't from Epsilon Eridiani. The People that live there. Will most look like Earth humans. It a G type star.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 02:21 PM by freighttrain

Here's an idea why ET is leaving all these crop circles here! From what I've came across I know for a fact that government is in contact with some aliens (not so good ones) for a while. There are also good aliens visiting earth, yet they can not interfere. So one idea I have is that maybe we already have these technologies (portals), and being used by secret government organizations rather than public.

So one way to introduce themselves aside getting involved with our corrupted government , they're trying to show public how to build these machines by placing this crop circles in publics eyes.. huge where it can not be disregarded and will for sure be seen by public. All we need is few genius quantum physicians to analyze these and see if they can relate it to anything we already discovered.

reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 02:37 PM by freighttrain

Also a great link which takes this investigation up a few notches.

www.cnufos.com...

Cheers,

Ps. I don't get it that much, but I'm sure someone will!

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reply posted on 11-3-2008 @ 02:57 PM by JustMike

Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by InfaRedMan

Thanks IRM. Interesting points...

I think the crop pictograph you've presented is unfortunately fake. If the said distance to that part of the galaxy is that far, the signal would only be a small fraction of the way to it's destination so I don't see the intended star system posing a reply to us so soon... unless they have a technology that can intercept signals ahead of their time.

Ok. Shall we say that the message was intercepted a couple of LYs away and they took their time responding? Or the beacon hit a non intended target approx 13 LYs away? It obviously didn't go the distance to the intended spot which was a globular star cluster M13, which is roughly 21,000 light-years from us, near the edge of the Milky Way galaxy.

Mike, it seems quite feasible things could have happened as you said in respect of a (relatively) close interception. Well it makes sense to me anyway...

On the other hand, InfraRedMan presents some food for thought as well in his closing remark. So although the following isn't exactly along the lines of his comment I'm just wondering if it still could be worth considering... What if the signal reaches its intended "destination" in about 21,000 years from now and whoever picks it up is able to trace it back to here and work out that it started on its journey 21k years previously. (Our years, that is. "They" might have an entirely different system of measuring time.) If we accept that time travel is theoretically possible, could they then "travel back through time" to us in the here and now, intending to arrive very shortly after the message was sent, but due to very slight perturbations in either the mode of travel or data measurement they arrived a few years later than the signal was sent?

And one perhaps for the physicists: if they could travel through space/non-space by using warps/nodes (thus eliminating the light speed problem), would they effectively be travelling back through time relative to us anyway? And if so, how would that affect the 21,000 years of elapsed time since the signal originally left? I get a bit lost on this sort of stuff so I'd be glad to know...

Many thanks,

(Just)Mike

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