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posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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Something I want to address……

Say disclosure happens tomorrow and the whole world finds out the truth about everything – new technologies – aliens – who shot Kennedy etc

With in 10-20 years from now it will be normal to accept the existence of aliens because everyone would have gotten over the alien presence after 10-20 years it would just be normal.

And so when you think about it even if we aren’t ready yet (which most of us are) why can’t disclosure just happen now it get it over and done with because as soon as it does, people will just get over it with time….


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posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 06:42 PM
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As you may know, I report information from some unusual sources (see my bk. Alien Mind), and in such cases, I know exactly what they say and take pains to not overstate, misconstrue or personally interpret such. However, when discussing possible disclosure scenarios done by humans, since I don't have inside military-intel sources in on the process, I can only speculate. In the following scenarios I've heard specific comments from aliens about each topic, so that side of the discussion has abundant inputs to draw on. Here are some scenarios:

Actual, phased disclosure is already underway, but is interrupted/stalled by those semi-official meetings where some insiders want it, some don't. Those who want it can see, as we do, that the public already knows about aliens but some in the public need official statements and evidence to be sure. When it happens, there's no going back, so some in the official/~MAJ/corporate loop are trying to gauge just how ready we are for it all. First off, and above all else--far above all else, they want to see that the globe has a comprehensive ability to thwart misuse of scalar weapons--should someone in a foreign country realize the significance of alien energy technology. The US/European structure (mostly the US-NATO and Echelon parties) already have a system of scalar detectors, but what they want to have installed, hardened, and with redundant back-up energy supply, is a system that can locate a destructive offender (intent on reckless harm to prove a point), pinpoint it then send reverse-streaming scalar energy that instantly fries the offender's electronics. That much is easy.

After they fry the offender's system, they want to go in and be able to land with an intervention party to look for any other backup system or evidence of who did it, and more. They already have a system that can probably locate the offenders physically--their very persons, and target them directly (energy/psychotronics) so this is very serious stuff. If the offender is in a defended nation state, they will go slower but may fry the system, then warn the head of state and its military: stop or else--global conventions already exist in this regard, on this planet, and on others. Aliens may also have offered a posture on this scenario---possible intervention to abort a misuse.

The problem, of course, is that the abducting alignment has literally seeded this planet with exactly such potentially destructive systems. They have breeding program operatives who may be the #1 risk to this planet for destroying our planet's ecology with such technology. Such aliens do this as part of their intervention: breed an elite that may push the envelope on genetic, scalar, and f.t.l. travel technology, then hold it over the planet's heads as a "fail-safe" prong to try to gain control of the planet. They also try to exacerbate some violent tensions among humans. In other words, they could use the Rockefeller/Rothschild mafia's control of such to make it seem as though someone unknown did the first attack on this planet of the sort, when it's really the breeding program operatives themselves who might do it. Benjamin Fulford's story about that Japanese earthquake he says Rockefeller caused just to demonstrate such tech (killed some in Japan, says Fulford) would be the kind of threat we need to think about.

So, the biggest threat is the abductors' intervention itself (it appears to be what engineered the death of the original "grays" planet, doesn't it?). We can see that a killer scenario can be rationalized off-world in terms of preventing proliferation of weapons uses, the spread of primitive, conquest-headed populations. No one wants humans zipping into our neighbors' areas like US Navy Commodore Perry did in Japan during the 19th century (we don't even rate, compared to our neighbors, of course). But you can see how a security posture re preventing the abuses of dangerous humans, off-world, can be used to aid/abet the gray alignment's attempt to literally own this planet. Remember those abductees who were told they could be used for reproductive purposes because they "belong to" those aliens? Sounds bizarre to us, but imagine being an alien who has been genetically engineered to have less emotion, then conditioned to accept a regime's psychotronic monitoring and an expansionist agenda for all of his/her life. We're portrayed as dangerous primitives, even though all such aliens were probably similar to us at some stage.

And when we talk about disclosure, the biggest hand in it all is the aliens--via their direct operatives. In a sense, the human regime that has alien technology is under the thumb of those very aliens--much more than most would suspect, but that's only a tiny, tiny sliver of humankind. My sources say independent humans control 60X the assets that "the ring" of direct operatives control. But who controls the media? In a sense the regime's fear factor--war, terror and narco/corruptions makes it seem like they're stronger than they actually are. All it would take is for someone to sneak a camera into one of those child sex-slave auctions, get the faces of the bidders on camera, along with the slaves, and we're a free people, once again, the moment the video hits the web and goes on Youtube. (the exposure would make the whole world wonder, what else do we need to worry about?)

So, let's say actual humans decide it's time to begin disclosing more, but the direct operatives say no... we aren't ready for that. Why? They won't say what they REALLY think because they think that if we disclose now, humankind will go into shock over being lied to, people will be outraged over the theft of publicly-acquired alien tech by private Rothschild/Rockefeller parties (where are the supposed Mellons and such in this---still eating out of the old Morgan trough or incapable of getting it right, as are others who depend on the market shifts/loans of that cruel, child-murdering elite?). The breeding program operatives play cold, killer wall in all of this--mostly an economic ring centered on a small number of Jewish families married into the Rothschild mafia, also Rockefeller, Sauds, and some more. If anyone else talks of disclosing truthfully, early, the direct operatives try to punish the movers economically.

Breeding program operatives don't want disclosure to occur until either the entire globe is wrapped into the fisted glove of their relatively small hand, or until humankind is so desperate that we'll take anything we can get, including colonization-guised-as-partnership w. their aliens. Boylan is a leading ideologue of that plan, although he thinks he's the ultimate human (starseed) hero--he isn't psychologically capable of seeing wrong done by those aliens. So, the operatives say no, we aren't ready yet (Dr. Frankenstein needs to do some more experiments). It's a pacification program: cold, ugly and cruel but intended to deliver us into that alignment's hands.

Meanwhile, the actual human elite is compromised and can't move decisively when the economy is weak like it is now. For example, what if Rothschild runs some loan-hungry elite humans into the ground? What if Rothschild and Rockefellers' Swiss bank offshoots simply shut such people down if they try to disclose? At present, the western economies of the US and Europe are too deeply wrapped into a kind of fraud typified by the "Federal Reserve Bank," which isn't even a government bank, at all. Everyone knows it's a fraud yet they have to use it to get money, which is why stupid financial tricks like subprime mortgages fail, yet affect everyone. So, as has been done for more than a century, economic contortions will be used to make sure that the intervention advances... and disclosure won't be allowed by the direct operatives anytime soon. We have to go around them.

What they want is for the aliens themselves to control how it's all done. Let the aliens (who control them, directly--not by proxy, not via influences, but aliens who directly task and favor them in various ways) make appearances increasingly in our skies. Wait until the aliens are ready to come down and do a big propaganda show that wows everyone. DON'T LET HUMANS DO AN INDEPENDENT DISCLOSURE, they think. Everything they've done, their lives and the fate of their children hinge on humans being controlled, controlled, controlled. Independent disclosure could expose them all. So, they hide behind government structures and tell us all to obey, or else.

Imagine what would happen with disclosure. Suddenly we read who authorized an alien presence in places on this globe. Who went behind presidents' and other governments' backs to do that. Who did the first deals with aliens... People will soon see which humans would appear to be closest to the aliens (not contactees, not aficionados or accolytes, but actual direct operatives). So, the more such aliens can do Close Encounters of the Third Kind-like interactions that draw in normal humans, the more they can dilute the public awareness of who the (partly non-human?) breeding program direct operatives are. The more men like McCain and former Sen. Sam Nunn are treated to direct exposure to live, in the flesh aliens and alien programs, the less humans will be able to see that men like Rockefeller and Rothschild took control of secret programs that let the abducting alignment place aliens right here--on our planet.

Because it will be easy to see that they sabotaged entire nations, they manipulated wars (for a reason) and they deepened a kind of corruption on this planet to thwart us, the direct operatives are afraid for their lives, at present.

So, if the UN story is true, we need to look at the chart of corporate and money influences of the people who come in and say no, you can't admit it publicly. We need to look at that for two reasons: a) the whole effort could possibly be a direct operative-friendly attempt to stage it all as they would choose, and b) direct operatives' finance and corporate cousins should be the first to try and ice the whole story before it leads to too much attention.

ANOTHER SCENARIO:

Actual independent humans decide to disclose. But they're fiercely opposed by the direct operatives' interests. There are a handful of murders, which don't really scare competent soldiers and investigators, and then the debate breaks into two camps. The direct operatives stand no chance once it gets out of hand. They could have to leave this planet. Imagine someone like Ely Rothschild, the most obvious case for a direct operative in France now (after his English cousin Amschel was apparently suicided for wanting to consolidate Rothschild finance into one block, which would have let the whole world know where and what Rothschild mostly is---thus making it less intimidating to financial competitors). Ely is about 46 years old, and he's the first one who will use French government pawns to deny the whole UN story, if it's true. (as I've reported previously, certain aliens went far out of their way to say that the French Rothschild is "direct operative" of the grays' alignment) French President Sarkozy took big money from Bank Menatep, a Rothschild thing, so he's an easy pawn.

Ely Rothschild may seem like a big deal to a human, but he's a nothing, a disposable stooge (and not too bright) to the aliens. The people we see as big or important (among the direct operatives), the abducting aliens see as intellectually impaired, corrupt and possible negatives re their whole scheme to gain effective control of this planet. So, men LIKE Rothschild sit and think, "If humans disclose, I'll be isolated eventually. That means no more child sex slaves, no more easy sex with models, actresses, no more easy coc aine and easy money, lush indulgences and such. No more private jets, seven houses, a yacht... Even my kids become suspects as traitors to humankind."

Do you think they want disclosure on independent human terms? Of course not. They would rather sabotage the best kinds of disclosure, and only allow info that makes their aliens seem awesome, powerful. It's like they hypnotic power of seeing those mushroom clouds on television. They want their aliens to seem insuperable, entirely beyond human capability. *We're talking about direct operatives who already scheme murders and wars for the pacification program, by the way. They think of mushroom clouds as a guarantee of their privilege. Ugly, but true.

Their problem, at present, is that the window of opportunity for making our planet part of their alignment is closing. It's closing because we're now capable of defending ourselves. We have enough technology to assure that we can go on independently. We don't really NEED the grays' alignment, although we need to study them very carefully, especially the implications on an inter-galactic scale.

In truth, they don't need us as "diplomatic" contacts. We are so backward and vulnerable for the next 150 years that we will do better to separate from the gray alignment and only interact with smaller alien groups who can be expected to be more moderate and understanding with us--even if they must worry about how we develop, as a planet. We can make other alien contacts and can do a smaller scale, limited interaction with a handful of neighbors, at first---all of it monitored and marginally steered by yet more advanced aliens. The truth is, some aliens don't want humans making their first mistakes in interplanetary relations with our actual neighbors. The best kind of first contact arrangements allow us to learn about aliens who aren't even from our local vicinity, at first. That way, when we actually meet our neighbors we know that much more, and will be more humble, understanding of the larger ecology, the alien community.

However, most people don't know that right now. So our big vulnerability is the ignorance, the lack of information that makes the minds of so many people (fundamentalists, greed hounds, and unscientific people) extremely vulnerable to manipulation by the grays' alignment. They may think, "let's take whatever we can get right now! What could possibly go wrong?" They don't see how vulnerable we are. We're also infiltrated by the gray alignment's direct operatives (an alignment in which grays are a tiny, minor sub-population, by the way), direct operatives who can cause some trouble in the short term. But once people see it for what it is, that's mostly behind us---unless they try to stage a Rockefeller-like parting shot: manipulated earthquakes and such, more scare factor.

What would a typical direct operative look like? Like Saudi Prince Bandar--a Bush family friend, reportedly a coc aine abuser BIG TIME, a physical culture addict (says Cathy O'Brien), and a betrayer of both his people, and all of us. Bandar's family is a most backward dictatorship that gave money directly to Bin Laden's people, knowing exactly what that entailed.

It appears to be a pacification plan (remember?) in which humans must be made to think we couldn't possibly get it right, alone. So, a perpetual war on terrorism sabotages the idea of doing an independent disclosure NOW... Which may relate to why Daniel Hopsicker reports that a Rockefeller family foundation sponsored Mohammed Atta's studies in Germany, believe it or not. And who profited by the huge narco trade done by the man who owned the small airport where Atta and cohorts studied in Venice FL? (see Hopsicker's book) Direct operatives, of course. It's a tightly intertwined ring of people, some in CIA, some elsewhere, but where does the money go? Not to independent banks. Instead, it is ultimately used to betray humankind and to corrupt government---a pacification plan that weakens the planet to take advantage of it.

So, let's say humans confer and realize that the whole intervention is getting out of hand. Once Bush Jr. is gone, we can do more with a better government. With Jr. in office, it's direct sabotage, as usual. So let's say humans in government and in elite economies meet discreetly and agree to turn up the pressure on the direct operatives, sabotage THEM economically and expose some of their crimes, while also beginning an actual, effective plan to have different nations agree: one will try to disclose, and if it fails due to internal sabotage, the others will do so, nonetheless. Actual alien artifacts, video, and a fraction of the actual news about it---NOT the whole story yet. The science may remain a "mystery" for a while, even if it is easily explicable, but just to be safe, the disclosure says some of it has to be researched better.

But the disclosure is enough to let humans begin to gauge whether they can live independently, as they always have. Once it begins, the breeding program operatives IMMEDIATELY do their own, independent release of information. It's propagandistic and biased in favor of the grays' alignment. It tries to say the aliens may have done experiments on some people but allows the aliens to say they did it for scientific reasons. Maybe the aliens even try to suggest that they had a hand in staging some of the phenomena surrounding those "three human prophets." They let their accolytes on this planet say those prophets were Star Seed, hoping to rile up fundamental support for the gray alignment. It's a dangerous situation, and the only way out of it is to release more information.

On day two, security structures and governments are trying to see whether they've gone too far. Should they say more, or less? It requires good minds and people who can think on their feet. So, disclosure requires multiple contingency planning. And, at some point, someone will try to use presidents to take control of, or censor media. There will be stop and starts, but most people will take it all in stride, awed and wondering about the implications... but they already think aliens exist.

Now it's a question of what the best information about aliens can tell us. There's a risk that the best information gets drowned out by the most spectacular, possibly pro-gray alignment propaganda, so, once again, complex multi-scenario planning must be done in advance. I assume it already has. But the problem is: who do such planners trust? We aren't all on the same page, here. And the gray alignment's pre-placed direct operatives, who seem human, have fooled a number of people. Which is why we see, as Corso suggested, and as that Navy faction suggests, at least some principled separate planning in various parts of government.

You see, once you actually plan for the real-time eventualities of disclosure, you're reminded that there are enemies of real honesty among us. Hence we see a huge amount of disinformation. There are also good people who, whether they realize it or not, can be duped and made to thwart the best disclosure scenario. But eventually, as the big disclosure news about aliens lingers in press, news analysis, scientific discussions and intergovernmental forums, the stops and starts begin to reveal some good, reliable information. The challenge is to sort out the propaganda and the greedy lets-make-a-deal kind of thinking of those who don't care about right or wrong---just get whatever you can NOW from those aliens.

So, planning has to keep a major sequence of releases, statements and programs IN MOTION. It can't let people think ~that's it, now the abducting aliens can just play their hand to maximum effect. People have to see the promise of future info releases, more evidence, and public programs to get us acquainted with the idea of an inhabited universe. We have to put people on adequate footing to anticipate a dangerous move by the breeding program operatives, but we don't want the situation to deteriorate into an anti-alien arms race. That would separate us from our real neighbors and give the gray alignment easy justification for continuing to isolate us and say we're primitives. So we have to be able to defend our planet from unwanted intrusions, but we can't go out patrolling with scalar weapons like we do with nukes on aircraft carriers. This is a whole new context and we've already been warned: part of the rationalization for the manipulated death of the gray planet was its use of scalar energy weapons. Before they got out into space with such (or shortly afterward), their planet was dead, forever. And now they're minor dependents of the same colonizing alignment that probably put its operatives into the gray midst to ~arrange things, previously.

We have to be able to say we know of some materially uninterested, honest aliens who we can trust. We have to be able to say we have neighbors who actually evolved here in this galaxy, as contrasted with those gray alignment enclaves only recently positioned in some locations in our vicinity (as part of a colonization effort from afar). People NEED the truth. Otherwise, we're all vulnerable to dangerous manipulations by what, in some ways, are collectively acquisitive, sometimes deceitful aliens who think that humans aren't very bright.

Two months after disclosure, the collective intelligence here will be taking interesting steps into a whole new category. We need to prepare people for that now. We need to see beyond the gray alignment in order to plan correctly. We need to deepen our analysis and share what we know.

But we're ready to know about aliens.

--George LoBuono, author of Alien Mind - a Primer, free to read at www.alienmindbook.org



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 06:46 PM
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With in 10-20 years from now it will be normal to accept the existence of aliens because everyone would have gotten over the alien presence after 10-20 years it would just be normal.


i agree with you on this and if they are here... disclosing the truth now would be better.

here is an article i thought you might like



Is the U.S. Navy Pushing UFO/ET Disclosure?



the purpose of the plan --- discussed in front of several military or retired military officers and former government officials--- was to help the Navy adjust their operations for a world in which it was commonly known that aliens exist and live among us.




he US Navy is therefore spearheading a military effort to get the UFO/extraterrestrial issue on the public agenda in order to force greater national/global awareness.


www.americanchronicle.com...
American Chronicle | Is the U.S. Navy Pushing UFO/ET Disclosure?




[edit on 12-3-2008 by easynow]



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 07:28 PM
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Well at least it happening in the right direction. ..



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 08:33 PM
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Haven't read thru the whole thread yet, so I'm sorry if I'm repeating anyones original thoughts on this...


In my opinion, we won't see disclosure on a grand scale from the government ever. The reason is not because they don't know how to do it or what the repercussions would be. It's actually the opposite. They know exactly how to do it and what the repercussions would be.

Any admittance of an alien race occupying our space and/or influencing our way if life would be, in the minds of the general public, be proof that the "government" or whatever entity you think is in power, is really not in power of much at all. This revelation is why we won't get any full disclosure on a governmental level any time soon or at all.

I'm not even a fan of the whole idea of the government co-operating with any alien entity in a mutual sharing of knowledge for advance tech kind of thinking. I do think we may have reversed engineered alien tech, but not because of some intergalactic secret peace treaty we have with them that says they can come and go as they please, mutilate our cows, mess up our corn fields, and make cameos on the shaky handheld cameras we all have pointed in the sky. Nope, I beleive they are here, we know it, and there is not a whole lot we can do about it.

If there is ever to be full blown disclosure, it will be because the aliens want themselves disclosed to us, the general public, and they will do it themselves in thier own way.

Then again...I could be wrong and this whole topic along with this whole forum could be the grand delusions of a bunch of people who just haven't found something real in thier lives to beleive in




[edit on 12-3-2008 by mpeake]



posted on Mar, 12 2008 @ 08:56 PM
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I think it's a little unfair to assume that. I have spent a long time pouring over government documents, I have found many credible pieces of evidence and that can't just be dismissed as a delusion shared by everyone who investigates the phenomenon. It is unfair because science has never really given this subject a chance to be put to the test. Many people have faked scientific review, but when you read reports like the COMETA report it becomes a wholly different issue. There is suddenly alot more to the subject. It should be treated with respect considering the potential ramifications, and yet people relegate the issue to absurdity. That is just not fair.



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 12:29 AM
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I have spent a long time pouring over government documents, I have found many credible pieces of evidence and that can't just be dismissed


Wow....can you give an example of some documents you've analysed... ?



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 02:10 AM
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Disclosure appears (at this time) to just be another mythological beast. Another dangling carrot. There's a lot of talk about it - but nothing ever happens. The thought used to excite me but now, to be honest, its kind of boring. I'm losing my faith in disclosure via human means.

[edit on 13/3/08 by InfaRedMan]



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by Nohup
It would be nice if any sort of disclosure (whatever that even means) was accompanied by a big celebration. Lots of food and booze and loud bands. That way it wouldn't be such a horror to learn that we humans were no longer at the top of the evolutionary ladder... or that we've just dropped down a link on the food chain.
I've already planned a "welcome to planet earth" party in my local pub,I'll be boshing out some twisted,unearthly pounders



I reckon it'll be leaked slowly,as is being done right now. Some people will never be ready for it. It'll blow their little world appart. But those people are keeping us back.



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 06:45 AM
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What is disclosure? Is it disclosure if not everything is told? Most people focus on the moments right after disclosure; people may be totally freaked out or not. But what about the long term consequences? How will this knowledge, what ever it may be, influence us on the long run?

And the real issue, of course, is what kind of information will be disclosed. A statement like: X from Y have been here and now they are gone long gone is a lot better to digest than X from Y are here and they will form a part of our society from now on. Or X from Y have indeed abducted and hurt people, here is the list let's see if there are people on it you knew.

If there is going to be any kind of disclosure, assuming that there is something concreet to disclose, than my guess is that it will be done in phases.



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by andre18

I have spent a long time pouring over government documents, I have found many credible pieces of evidence and that can't just be dismissed


Wow....can you give an example of some documents you've analysed... ?


Quite a few actually.

COMETA Report

Air Force Trans Flight Plan 2003

Aerial Mining Capability(Which can be found in the Clifford Stone Archive)

Space Based Laser Weapon System Support-Naval Research/Lab Schafer Corp.
(Pretty advanced stuff)

USAF Space Command Fact Sheet and Protocol Documents.

I could go on..And on...And on...

But do I really need to?



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 08:30 PM
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I dont know if anyone is still reading this post, but its funny because I was just thinking about this whole idea of disclosure and what kind of effect it would have on humanity. It's tough because personally I want to know what the highest level of authority knows on the subject of non earth based objects and beings. I personally find it extremely unlikely that this solar system is the only one to have birthed intelligent life, especially after reading an article about how life more than likely came from meteors that crashed into earth and had a large amount of amino acids that helped build proteins, which is the foundation of our structure. I doubt out of the whole universe we were the only planet in a habitual zone that got hit by these amino acid carrying meteors.
But on the other hand, as much as everyone on here already for the most part believes that there is other intelligent life that has probably found our planet and is monitoring it, and that a disclosure would not be a big deal, I think that if I we and the rest of the world were to wake up tomorrow and have the headline of every newspaper and the top story of every news show be "The United States along with other World Governments acknowledge the presence of Extraterestial life existing and interacting with our planet" (thats a long headline I know) and they disclosed either crafts or bodies or anything concrete, the whole world would for the most part change dramatically.
I think there are a lot of people on this planet that would have a really hard time dealing with that and being able to continue in their normal lives. I think authorities would have a hard time keeping people under control and I think there would definitely be some mass hysteria and panic.
But with that, I think that with the right organization and planning and infastructure set up to help people deal with the reality, that there are more advanced civilizations of beings that have mastered the technology of space travel and have found our planet and done studies on our people, but for what we know, they do not intend to harm us, if so they probably would have wiped us out already, and that just as they are alien, so will the human race be to other primitive planets when we can travel in space and manipulate technology to the extent these other worldly beings can.
It would be hard for humanity to deal, that there would be people having a extremely uncomfortable reaction to our lack of control of the skies, but I think if done with a infastructure in place beforehand, it would help in the long run in uniting the human race and the advancement of our species.



posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 08:44 PM
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Imho the only way the gov.could pull it off and still keep a shred of dignity is to wait for an undeniable occurence and act very suprised.And keep all previous knowledge burried.



posted on Mar, 14 2008 @ 02:39 AM
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It’s not really disclosure if there are things that are still covered up.

I’m trying to think now how religion would be affected by the existence of aliens, – my guess is they’ll give up their beliefs as most mainstream religions would find the existence of aliens contradictory to their beliefs.



posted on Mar, 14 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by andre18
It’s not really disclosure if there are things that are still covered up.

I’m trying to think now how religion would be affected by the existence of aliens, – my guess is they’ll give up their beliefs as most mainstream religions would find the existence of aliens contradictory to their beliefs.



Why should it be contradictory? I'm a Christian, I've found many references in the Bible about aliens, (I personally think Angels might be those aliens, but in allegorical form), Even knowing that it doesn't turn me away from the teachings of Christ. Why should I turn away from helping the needy and trying to be a good steward of my environment. To attempt to be the honest man I claim to be. And to share that with others. Religion just needs to re-examine how it views God. And how much they are willing to limit God's power.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 02:52 AM
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Why should it be contradictory? I'm a Christian, I've found many references in the Bible about aliens, (I personally think Angels might be those aliens, but in allegorical form), Even knowing that it doesn't turn me away from the teachings of Christ. Why should I turn away from helping the needy and trying to be a good steward of my environment. To attempt to be the honest man I claim to be. And to share that with others. Religion just needs to re-examine how it views God. And how much they are willing to limit God's power.


Even so....there are those Christians - many of whom appose the existence of aliens even if you yourself may accept them, most Muslim, Christians, Hindus, Jews etc wont

An example of this would be: Do aliens need Christ for salvation?



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 03:14 AM
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i have honestly started to belive are government are actully not in contact with these visitors and just have no idea wot there intetions are, or why thay come here, and why thay wont make contact with use, if thay come out about it and said this is the case it would course panic, i cant see no other reason as to why thay withhold this information, not any logikal one anyways, so that would be my guess thay just dont know enuff to talk about it to us...



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by andre18

Why should it be contradictory? I'm a Christian, I've found many references in the Bible about aliens, (I personally think Angels might be those aliens, but in allegorical form), Even knowing that it doesn't turn me away from the teachings of Christ. Why should I turn away from helping the needy and trying to be a good steward of my environment. To attempt to be the honest man I claim to be. And to share that with others. Religion just needs to re-examine how it views God. And how much they are willing to limit God's power.


Even so....there are those Christians - many of whom appose the existence of aliens even if you yourself may accept them, most Muslim, Christians, Hindus, Jews etc wont

An example of this would be: Do aliens need Christ for salvation?


A very good point.. My mother, having been religious all her life, even went as far as to be come a Jehovas Witness, Still thinks the Bible, the original Bible, was a plant by aliens. The Catholic Church may have to reveal it's secrets. Same with all religions.. At that point it will be up to them to ease their followers into it. Aliens may not need Christ for salvation, but that may be because Christ is one of them. Or at least closely tied to them.



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by daddyroo45
Imho the only way the gov.could pull it off and still keep a shred of dignity is to wait for an undeniable occurence and act very suprised.And keep all previous knowledge burried.


With the stigma the Government has built for itself thus far, it will be very hard for them to hide any previous information on the matter. People would demand it. and get it. Look, I'm 100% certain that the Government has a disclosure date in hand. But alot of people need to get used to the idea of being less important than they think they are, and realize they are part of a larger community(for better or worse).



posted on Mar, 15 2008 @ 09:09 PM
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Something that just occurred to me….what makes the elites so special that they can handle the truth but we can’t?



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