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The Declining Terror Threat *full story*




Topic started on 9-3-2008 @ 06:48 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation


Who is Larry C. Johnson?

I first heard of him when I read his article The Declining Terrorist Threat, which was published on July 10, 2001 in the New York Times. I was fascinated that this man thought that Americans should feel safe in the face of all his gathered information over the years. (please read link to understand Mr. Johnson's credentials)


They seem to believe that terrorism is the greatest threat to the United States and that it is becoming more widespread and lethal. They are likely to think that the United States is the most popular target of terrorists. And they almost certainly have the impression that extremist Islamic groups cause most terrorism.

None of these beliefs are based in fact. While many crimes are committed against Americans abroad (as at home), politically inspired terrorism, as opposed to more ordinary criminality motivated by simple greed, is not as common as most people may think.



At first glance, things do seem to be getting worse. International terrorist incidents, as reported by the State Department, increased to 423 in 2000 from 392 in 1999. Recently, Americans were shaken by Filipino rebels' kidnapping of Americans and the possible beheading of one hostage. But the overall terrorist trend is down. According to the Central Intelligence Agency, deaths from international terrorism fell to 2,527 in the decade of the 1990's, from 4,833 in the 80's.


Take notice of the Filipino rebels beheading of a hostage. I bet most people though Islamic Terrorists made that up.


Other terrorism against American interests is rare. There were three attacks on American diplomatic buildings in 2000, compared with 42 in 1988. No Americans were killed in these incidents, nor have there been any deaths in this sort of attack this year.


Remember who this quote is coming from (Larry C. Johnson - US Counter-terrorism specialist)


The greatest risk is clear: if you are drilling for oil in Colombia — or in nations like Ecuador, Nigeria or Indonesia — you should take appropriate precautions; otherwise Americans have little to fear.


Also...


"Instead of dealing with the facts and dealing with them in an intelligent fashion, they try to hide their facts from
the American public," charged Larry C. Johnson, a former CIA analyst and State Department terrorism expert
who first disclosed the decision to eliminate the report in The Counterterrorism Blog, an online journal.



Also note that this next quote from Mr. Johnson is from July, 2001.


I am not soft on terrorism; I believe strongly in remaining prepared to confront it. However, when the threat of terrorism is used to justify everything from building a missile defense to violating constitutional rights (as in the case of some Arab-Americans imprisoned without charge), it is time to take a deep breath and reflect on why we are so fearful.


And the most revealing quote of them all...


Finally, there are bureaucracies in the military and in intelligence agencies that are desperate to find an enemy to justify budget growth. In the 1980's, when international terrorism was at its zenith, NATO and the United States European Command pooh-poohed the notion of preparing to fight terrorists. They were too busy preparing to fight the Soviets. With the evil empire gone, they "discovered" terrorism as an important priority.


But what if the rest of the world had the statistical proof that Americans were safe, and that international terrorism was sky-rocketing?

Bush Administration eliminates 19-year-old international terrorism report

Why did they eliminate it? Well, first it revealed that most terrorism was targeted at India and S. America prior to 9/11, and after the war on terror the numbers went up. The Administration got tired of having to edit the report to add incidents left out (not before Bush used the original version to boost his re-election campaign about terror on decline).


Last June, the administration was forced to issue a revised version of the report for 2003 that showed a higher
number of significant terrorist attacks and more than twice the number of fatalities than had been presented in
the original report two months earlier.
The snafu was embarrassing for the White House, which had used the original version to bolster President
Bush's election-campaign claim that the war in Iraq had advanced the fight against terrorism.




Last year, the number of incidents in 2003 was
undercounted, forcing a revision of the report,
"Patterns of Global Terrorism."


Finally, they discontinued the report, preventing anyone from acquiring the statistics that states that The War on Terror has created more terrorism than was previously in the world.



WASHINGTON - The State Department decided to
stop publishing an annual report on international
terrorism after the government's top terrorism center
concluded that there were more terrorist attacks in
2004 than in any year since 1985, the first year the
publication covered.



But other current and former officials charged that
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's office
ordered "Patterns of Global Terrorism" eliminated
several weeks ago because the 2004 statistics
raised disturbing questions about the Bush's
administration's frequent claims of progress in the
war against terrorism.



Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who was among the leading critics of last year's mix-up, reacted angrily to the
decision.
"This is the definitive report on the incidence of terrorism around the world. It should be unthinkable that there
would be an effort to withhold it - or any of the key data - from the public. The Bush administration should stop
playing politics with this critical report."


Now we must all remember what president bush has told us (over and over). They Hate our Freedoms!

I say nope. We hate you.

AAC




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reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 07:18 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation


If you didn't hear me the first time...


LONDON (AFP) — US President George W. Bush, outraged by massive bomb attacks in Turkey that came during his state visit to Britain, stood alongside British Prime Minister Tony Blair and vowed to crush global terrorists who "hate freedom".

"They hate freedom. They had free countries," a grim-faced Bush said at a Downing Street press conference as the death toll from the Turkish metropolis topped 25.


Here it is again. they hate my freedom. link

AAC



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reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 07:32 PM by kleverone


Great Post

Nothing really more to say than Starred and Flagged. It's informative posts like this one that set ATS apart from most other sites. Keep em coming AAC.



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 12:17 AM by AnAbsoluteCreation


I don't understand why this thread is stagnate. I apologize if I presented it in an unattractive way. But the point is, if it looks like we empowered terrorism, smells like we empowered terrorism, and painfully taste like we empowered terrorism, doesn't that mean we empowered terrorism?

If so, let's talk about it.

AAC

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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 12:20 AM by pluckynoonez


When I first heard "they hate us for our freedom...." I almost lost it. The funniest thing since "freedom's on the march!" Or was that second?



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 12:28 AM by Karlhungis


I guess Bush is just doing us a favor. Stripping away our freedoms because the terrorists hate them. If we no longer have any freedom, the terrorists will have nothing to hate. Then we win! Ha Ha, suck on that terrorists.



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 04:47 PM by Wolfie_UK


It is sad to read and see, but I guess once the US pulls out of the ME and comes home there will be so much distrust of your own government that the returning forces will be asked to fight another terrorist group.

Namely the US civilians who stopped believing in their leader.

Growing pains for America or the last breath


Wolfie



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 06:54 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation


Sometimes I believe that there is a government-induced psychosis being implemented via a myriad of ways.

Are we the cure, or are we the disease?

AAC



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reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 10:59 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation



Originally posted by Karlhungis
I guess Bush is just doing us a favor. Stripping away our freedoms because the terrorists hate them. If we no longer have any freedom, the terrorists will have nothing to hate. Then we win! Ha Ha, suck on that terrorists.




I can't believe I missed this.

I can actually see this coming up as an actual tactic, and that is scary.

"It's Brilliant Cheney! Just Brilliant!," says Bush.

"What an Idiot," whispers Cheney as he walks away from the animal balloon clown and a giggling GW.

AAC



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reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 11:10 PM by zeusadam


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My thread needs help and is along your lines. can you fix it? my thread that is.



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reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 11:16 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation



Originally posted by zeusadam
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My thread needs help and is along your lines. can you fix it? my thread that is.



Which thread do you need help with? Can you link it?

AAC



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reply posted on 13-4-2008 @ 11:38 PM by zeusadam


new proof war on terror. Theres alot of proof but not organised at all.



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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 01:26 AM by Scramjet76


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Finally, they discontinued the report, preventing anyone from acquiring the statistics that states that The War on Terror has created more terrorism than was previously in the world.



I think this has always been my biggest sticking point with the war on terror. Not the political ideology but the straight up numbers. Statistics show that auto accidents kill far more people than terrorists. You would think cars would be outlawed?? I'm not saying don't grieve for people who died in terror attacks.. Rather be honest with yourself: The World Is A Dangerous Place!

Furthermore, instead of printing off money and going to debt over in Iraq, let's print off money and dump it into our own political boundaries. Like free ourselves from so much oil dependence.

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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 01:35 AM by Shugo


Great post my friend. Some excellent research, and excellent reading. I haven't gotten finished with all of it just yet, but so far it's a great read. The facts are rather facinating for sure. It's a shame that the trend really wasn't going down isn't it?

Still, provided some good reading.



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reply posted on 14-4-2008 @ 01:43 AM by AnAbsoluteCreation


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I appreciate that. Sometimes I think people lose sight of the small details that are right there in front of us, but shadowed for obvious reasons.

AAC



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