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B-1 accident on Guam

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posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 05:26 PM
A B-1 has suffered "significant damage" during a landing accident on Guam. The aircraft was on the way home from Singapore, to Ellsworth and declared an emergency. They returned to Guam, and made a safe landing, and the crew evacuated. After the crew evacuated the aircraft began to roll on the taxiway, impacting two emergency vehicles, and suffering significant damage to one wing. It's expected to remain in Guam until repairs are made. This is the third accident to happen at Guam recently. A US Navy EA-6B Prowler crashed, followed by the B-2 crash.

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 06:53 PM
Ok. What on Earth is going on with the USAF??

Because they lost already a B2 and some other aircraft and now a B1 is heavely damaged??!

These accidents give the USAF a realy bad image and it only costs more and more money...

Best thing is that the crew is safe and sound.

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 06:56 PM
The high tempo of operations in support of the war is making crews tired, and putting a lot of stress on the aircraft. They are flying twice as many training flights as they normally flew, which puts a lot more stress on the airframes. Although this accident seems more like stupidity. Someone forgot to set the brakes when they egressed.

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 06:56 PM
reply to post by Zaphod58

Please post a link. I can't find this story anywhere. Thanks

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 06:59 PM

An Ellsworth Air Force Base B-1B Lancer bomber was involved in a collision with two emergency-response vehicles Friday after landing at a Guam air base.

The aircraft landed after declaring an in-flight emergency shortly after its initial departure from Andersen Air Force Base in Guam, according to a news release from the Ellsworth public-affairs office.

The aircraft cleared the active runway, but it was stopped on the taxiway just after noon Guam Standard Time, according to a news story on the Pacific News Center's Web site,

Air Force officials said the B-1 then began to roll on its wheels and collided with the vehicles. There were no details about how that happened

From Pacific News Center comes word of an accident involving one of the B-1 bombers from Ellsworth Air Force Base in Rapid City, South Dakota.

No injuries involved, fortunately. It seems the crew had just exited the aircraft when it rolled into some support vehicles. (Guess they forgot to put it in "Park") :-)

From the PNC article:

Air Force officials are investigating the collision of a B-1 Bomber with emergency vehicles on the taxiway up at Andersen Air Force Base. Air Force Spokesman Capt. Joel Stark confirms that the B-1 Bomber was in transit from Singapore to Ellsworth Air Force Base, South Dakota and had landed at AAFB for an inflight emergency. Capt. Stark couldn't disclose what the emergency was but did say the B-1 Bomber apparently had rolled while on the taxiway and collided into the vehicles just after 12 p.m. Friday.

As well as multiple sources that I am NOT posting.

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 07:04 PM
Thanks for the links. Sorry if I ruined your day.

posted on Mar, 9 2008 @ 11:23 PM
Thanks Zaoh. Sigh this is getting old fast No?

Will post any info I run across thanks for the heads up.....

On that note here is some i just found clarrifying what happened and where the B-1 was based from etc.

The U.S. Air Force has clarified initial reports of Friday afternoon's B-1b Lancer bomber incident at Andersen Air Force Base in Yigo. According to Captain Joel Stark with the base's Public Affairs Office, the aircraft was neither assigned to nor deployed at Andersen. He told KUAM News the bomber was en route to its homebase at Ellsworth AFB in Meade County, South Dakota, having recently participated in an air show in Singapore.

[edit on 9-3-2008 by Canada_EH]

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 12:36 AM
Well these kind of incidents always come in threes =P

Hopefully this will be the last accident. But honestly, what's going on down there?

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 05:19 AM
What the hell happened here??

Two things,

First, did the crew evacuate the aircraft with engines running or does Guam have one hell of a slope on its runways and taxiways? If there was significant wing damage I would assume that the crew failed to effect an engine shutdown (must have been one REAL scary emergency to bail that fast!!) as failing to set the brakes shouldnt have caused much of a roll... unless there was a cyclone in the area.

Secondly, did no one in the emergency vehicles notice several hundred tons of bomber rolling towards them and think "hmmm... maybe we should just get out of the way?"

The accident report on this one will be interesting to say the least.


posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 07:26 AM
reply to post by thebozeian

Get out of the way and let it roll where then? Not sure but its hard to say if they may have saved the bomber from more damage had it continued to roll off the taxi way or into something worse who knows its all guess work.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 01:28 PM
Easy now, let's get straight facts first before assuming,

Let's be patient here friends. Zaphod is definitely our resident research expert with Canada_Eh in close proximity. These guys are always able to get the story and post what is or is not, therefore eliminating speculation as much as possible.
With the efforts going on all over, there is no doubt quite a bit of stress involved with the crews and aircraft themselves. Yes, they are highly trained (or are supposed to be), but real world application is different than training. So, with that said, the crews must really concentrate and pay close attention to every detail.....that is when most accidents happen, when a detail that should not be overlooked is.
Great work here by everybody, hopefully there were no injuries, and that we find out what happened. Keeping the facts straight is what makes this particular forum so great here on ATS!!

Peace, Mondo (VX 4)

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 03:08 PM
reply to post by Mondogiwa

Thanks for the post Mondo. If we are the researchers your the resident voice of reason/peacemaker of our lot lol. Thats is truly meant as a compliment. If your interested in getting any updates colour or the actually sqdn patch symbol to the avatar just send me a U2U eh? hope all is well.

posted on Mar, 10 2008 @ 05:00 PM
Nothing new today on this one. Just that they're investigating. No word on what the IFE was. Apparently they are looking at whether anyone chocked the wheels after it stopped on the taxiway.

posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 05:43 PM
They suffered a failure of one of their hydraulic systems after take off. When they landed and stopped the fire department noticed leaking hydraulic fluid. They shut down the engines and egressed, but no one chocked the wheels while all this was going on. The plane began to roll forward and struck the two fire trucks. One truck was wedged under the left wing, the other suffered a smashed windshield and cab.

posted on Mar, 13 2008 @ 11:19 PM
reply to post by Zaphod58

Thanks for the update Zaph. The out come for this one could of been worse but still isn't great and a major oversight on the fire-PIC-groundcrew on this one.

posted on Jun, 7 2008 @ 12:04 AM
Fire trucks had bad transmissions... hard to go into reverse. & yes Guam is sloped... last bullet w/ hydro leak is the most sense

posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 07:33 PM
The AIB states that 24 minutes after takeoff they lost #3 hydraulic system, declared an IFE and returned. They landed, came off the runway, parked on the taxiway and set the parking brake. The fire department observed a leak on the right side, and advised them to shut down. They shut down and it rolled into the fire trucks. The evidence shows that the right hand brake metering valve failed. It allowed both the parking brake and emergency brake to deplete and fail after shut down. Contributing factors include the inability of the AREF vehicles to get clear, and the separation of a 1 1/4 inch diameter hydraulic line that caused the failure of the #3 hydraulic system. The line separated from a high pressure T-fitting.

posted on Sep, 23 2008 @ 11:19 PM
Thats what I would call one heck of a series of unfortunate events. Wrong plane at the wrong time for the Fire crew. Mind you the damage may have been worse if it rolled very far out of control. So a blessing in disguises perhaps?

posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 12:17 AM
This just my humble opinion. We are talking of 3 billions dollar aeroplane.
Water in a sensor was ruled as the first snafu.

This just doesn't add up. I find myself saying that a lot lately.

posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 05:26 AM
Accidents like this happen. This was actually not that bad. Total damage to aircraft and fire trucks was about $5.7M total. The aircraft was repaired and returned to service.

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