Good post. I have read a few things about Ram Bomjon, mainly blogs though. Isn't it being suggested that he could be the reincarnation fo Buddah? The kid is supposdedly doing some really amazing things and I would have to think that his abilities are possibly beyond the reach of the average person.


Again, good thread. Starred and Flagged. Keep us posted if you make contact.

I'll look into this stuff. Figure I'll start meditating soon, not much interest in doing anything in particular lately, might as well try something different.

Starred and flagged!

Thanks for the info. I can't wait to dig into it.

Thanks much for all of your hard work here, It has been a pleasure reading all of this, I have had the intention of living in a monastary since I was a child and I feel that time is coming closer.. So it's nice to find information about that In a place like ATS, flagged.

Wow, incredibly interesting. I want to post so I have this in my ATS and can participate later. This is great stuff, Thanks for starting this forum.

I got a response from Wim Hoff's manager, Walter Tiemessen he forwarded my questions to Wim Hoff.

Dear *****,

I will ask Wim to answer your questions. We are wiling to give
lectures at your University. But there are costs involved. Not only
travel costs, beverage and food for four persons (Wim, me as his
manager and our own photo and camera crew) but also a performance fee,
depending of the period.
Let me know what's possible. The eventual decision is always taken by Wim.

With kind regards,

Walter Tiemessen
Manager

Haha yeah, I heard they were doing a demonstration at the University of Miami. So I was curious and so asked if were able to get a event going, if they would be willing to do a demonstration and a lecture at the university I attend to. Hmm i need to persuade my college, I'm sure they'll be down with it, I just need to find some affiliates at my college and get things going.

Anyways, I'll update you guys with any further information that come up.

Wish me luck guys.

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I am curous about the vitals, does their heart rates go up, are they staying perfectly still during this experiment, of are they moving their bodies in order to create greater blood flow? in order to pump blood back into the body, the muscles must be expanding and contracting to move the blood through the check valves of the vein system. I know you can maintain body temperature in a cold environment by consciously manipulating your bodies muscles to burn energy. I can do this, but it is certainly not mind over matter. In addition, what have the people in these experiments eaten before such a test?

Considering the polar bear societies where people swim in freezing cold water, which would pull heat away even faster than wet cloth, I would have to say those people have also managed to develop this technique. I didn't find any scientific evidence on the endurance that these groups achieve in their activities, but I think a comparison would be interesting.

Other Tibetan monks don't care about things like desensitizing yourself to cold weather and all they want to do is vanish and never come back. They do this by dematerializing themselves. Dr. Caycedo, the founder of sophrology, describes this in his book about his travels in the Far East: in the Tibetan monasteries the monks shut themselves up in their cells and days later the others go in an all they find is their clothes, their hair and their finger- and toenails....

Thanks for the timely reply, I would very mush like to here more about this.

It does sound like they are able to channel energy with their minds. That would be truly amazing. I think it also might be possible that by manipulating control of blood flow back to the heart, you could increase circulation without increasing heart rate or pressure, by decreasing resistance through aiding flow, and that the physical action of gently expanding and contracting your muscles could produce the body heat.

I hope you get a response from Wim Hof, I would love to learn more. It is great that you can get a reply from him.

The above is a reply to Skyblueffo. From some reason, even though I linked to the reply marker, the message did not contain the usual information. Sorry for the one line post.

I don't think that Wim actually wanted to learn this tehnique. I've seen him saying that he learned it, when his life became threatened in the cold. He fell asleep in snow couple times, when he was younger. He almost died due to cold, but he managed get control of body temperature.

He said that everyone has a thermostat in their brain that controls the body temperature. Wim just learned to control that.

I belive that it has something to do with focusing. I've tried to focus on my body and search the thermostat in my brain to feel more warmer or colder and I think it worked, but I'm not sure.

I'm really looking forward for Wim's letter, but I doubt that he'll just explain plain and simple, how he does it.

Hey guys,

This is my first post on ATS. I was moved to register after reading this thread. I practice Qigong (www.qigong.com) and my teacher has arranged with Wim Hof to come to Miami to teach us Tumo. I am incredibly excited for this chance to learn from such a man.

I can post more after I return from the class. It is a five day intensive where we will learn his technique. I have a letter that Wim sent us from Tibet House, the Dali Lama's organization. It says that Wim is an accomplished teacher and is able to relay this information in a way that people can benefit from it. Also, studies have been done on Wim and he is able to profoundly lower the amount of inflammatory substances in his body. Inflammation is the root of all degenerative diseases.

The curriculum he sent has incredible things on it like 'channeling electrical potential through chakras' and on day three we will go to the 'snow dome' and 'walk and run barefoot in the snow'.

After he teaches us, Wim is traveling to New York to teach a group of novice mediators from Tibet House so they can study how people who don't have much practice in meditation respond to Tumo. After that, Tibet House has invited Wim to go to India to see the Dali Lama to discuss how Tumo can help people all over the world.

Someone in this thread mentioned Reiki Tumo. This is a very different form. Reiki Tumo involves an attunement that clears the chakra line and awakens kundalini. An attunement is a passive process that is passed from one person to another. I have practiced Reiki for a number of years, and there was a period of time when Reiki Tumo attunement was being offered for free and I received the attunement. It was interesting, but not as potent as I expected.

If anyone has any other questions, I will do my best to answer them.