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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 02:59 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by Christian Voice


That happened to me recently also. I just had to find the picture and replace it and redo, pretty much, my whole profile.


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:00 PM by forestlady
i]Originally posted by Bigwhammy:
Gay people are usually exclusively gay. If you are bisexual or heterosexual and promiscuous - you just like sex, in so many words you are a pervert. Those animals are just little perverts trying to get off, they're animals they don't know any better. If those animals were exclusively Gay the species would become extinct. Big difference.

I view homosexuality as a mental illness. I view homosexual sex as a sin. Judge the sin not the sinner. There are people born with both sets of organs, hermaphrodites - it's an aberration - the doctor makes a decision and usually snips away - now I am sure they can become confused about sexual identity - I think homosexuality is the psychological component to that confusion. It's a mental disorder like being a hermaphrodite is a physical abnormality. I don't see a need to persecute sick people but I'm not going to approve of their disease and call it normal. If they are trying to in act legislations that call it normal I think they are wrong. If it were "normal" there would be no human race.

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So now if I like sex, I'm a pervert? MANY of these gay animals are exclusively gay. And 1 out of 10 animals supposedly is gay (just like with humans), how does that make the entire species go extinct? For that matter, if you statement was true, humans would all be extinct.

So now it's a disease? Well, that would mean they couldn't help it, wouldn't
it? So now, these poor people with a disease they didn't ask to have, have to become second class citizens so that the rest of us either don't catch it or are offended by it?


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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:00 PM by zysin5
reply to post by Bigwhammy


I think people like this like to bait, and profess they know what is going on. From their point of veiw, some people are very very sick. And they claim they dont hate them, or speak of hate.
I could claim Im 12 feet tall and bullet proof, that doesnt change the fact of who I am. Words like Bigwhammy uses makes me lose alot of respect for people in his faith. You like champions of faith who spew such nonesense? Does he truely speak for you?
If so, what makes you think that doesnt border on hate?

This tells me that he is aginst love. He only wants to judge the sin, yet makes personal judgements about people he has no clue about.
He has not done any research, as its very clear he doesnt know what he is talking about.. AT all!
People who claim its wrong to love another person, thats my issue.
I dont see a sickness of two people sharing love.. I dont see how that is wrong to love another human being?
People dont see you are trying to bann love. Sure there are many forms of love.. Why cant two people love eachother if they fall in love?
Who are you to say what God says is right..
You are only humans like everyone else. Get off the high and might throne you belive you sit upon when you judge love at every level.
Like this lady here.. I think she should be put out of her place in office. She doesnt speak for the masses. Yet she does speak the tone of the right wing fundies. Pat Robertson, and the likes.
Many of you who think its wrong, and Jesus said its wrong have no proof of this. You can read the bible like Fred Phelps, or you can read into it with love and understanding. Sally Kern is just another cog in the hate machine that keeps on moving threw our lives. Some even endorse her.



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:06 PM by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
reply to post by zysin5


Your comment leaves you open to the "bestiality-incest-molestation" attack . Just a fair warning that its coming.


Anyway its clear these people are not "true" "Christians" . There quick to pass judgment that is only reserved for there "DoG" . . .


Give peace a chance . Love thine neighbor. And love thine self .. If theres judgement to be passed so be it . Its no ones place but "DoG's"


I think greeneyedleo has said it best . (First time i stared a foe i think) If only more people saw there religion in that light . Or any light at all for that matter..


[edit on 10-3-2008 by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR]


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:07 PM by intrepid
OK guys, let's keep this impersonal.


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:07 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by Christian Voice


I believe I challenged you to a debate. I've let you skip over my posts before, since so many reply to you and it would be hard to keep up.

This one will not be skipped over. Either you accept or you do not.


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:09 PM by forestlady
reply to post by zysin5

Zysin wrote:

"People who claim its wrong to love another person, thats my issue.
I dont see a sickness of two people sharing love.. I dont see how that is wrong to love another human being?"

Right on, Zysin, I've been saying this for years; how can it be a sin for 2 people who genuinely love each other to, well, love each other?

For the Christians who say Jesus wouldn't condone it - do you know this for a fact? How do you know this, when the Bible makes no mention of how Jesus felt about homosexuality. He was furious with the Jewish rabbis who had 16,000 different religious laws. He thought all those rules were stupid and harmful and he told people to love each other - that's the basic commandment. He also said that was the most important Commandment.
Thanks for pointing that out, Zysin.


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:14 PM by Bigwhammy
Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by Bigwhammy


We have exclusively gay people, why aren't we extinct. Oh great scientist, please show me your studies, as we have done for you with ours.


Does it take a great scientist to see that an exclusively Gay population would not be able to reproduce?

I just play one on TV


I'm tired of the garbage. "The Christian Voice" over here dismisses our study, then throws up some clearly biased websites info, and doesn't even actually answer any questions.



Don't cry to me about it.


Now you come in and say that sexuality is a mental illness.


Well you are misquoting me. Sexuality is Gods gift to a married man and woman. Read the Song of Solomon. God is not a prude. I said I believe Homosexuality is a mental illness. That's the way I treat it - so I do not judge the people. It is aberrant behavior.


I don't care what you view, I care about facts.


If you don't care about my view then don't respond to me. I don't much care about your's either.


Do you have any?


Yeah - the main function of sex is reproductive- that's a fact- homosexuality takes the real purpose of it an perverts it. It's quite obvious.

Do you have any facts, other than pervert monkeys?



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reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:21 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by Bigwhammy


Care to discuss this in a more civilized manner? It appears the great Voice won't respond to my offer.

So I will formally offer you. Will you debate me on this issue in a controlled format?

You will have the options I extended in my earlier post.



reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 03:28 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by forestlady


I seriously doubt that God gave sex for the sole purpose of reproduction. If that was the case, he would not have given us a DESIRE to physically be with another human being.

After all. Not everyone gets married, nor does everyone have to get married.

After all. Not all married couples (using them as an example) are even able to get pregnant.

So in some eyes, God created sex for the sole purpose of reproduction, but then turns around and doesnt let them reproduce? That makes NO SENSE. So, if that couple cant produce for whatever reason - should they stop having sex then?

And on top of that....why didnt Jesus write down what his opinon was on the matter? Why is that it was a man who claimed to hear from god what is and isnt right? Even today, "man" claims to hear from God, then tells people.....but who the heck knows if he really heard from God? There is some thread on there where the Pope has now announced new sins. WHAT?

This topic drives me nuts. LOL




*oh, I was agreeing with you...for the record....i dont think it came out that way

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