How could this administration keep 9/11 a secret?

reply to post by Swampfox46_1999


Not all 250 pieces are baloney. The nose out video analysis is something that can't be easily explained away.

Originally posted by infinityoreilly
Not all 250 pieces are baloney. The nose out video analysis is something that can't be easily explained away.

There is no way the nose of an airliner would have survived to come out the other side of the building.

The front of the nose is made of graphite composite, the rest of the nose is made of aluminum, it would have been destroyed as soon as hit the building.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

The front of the nose is made of graphite composite, the rest of the nose is made of aluminum, it would have been destroyed as soon as hit the building.

Exactly, so what is it that sticks out on the otherside of the building that looks exactly like the nose of the aircraft? Just one of a few anomalies with Fox helicopter shot.

Originally posted by infinityoreilly
Exactly, so what is it that sticks out on the otherside of the building that looks exactly like the nose of the aircraft?

You mean what comes out the other side of the building.

Well ther are 2 theories on this. Its either one of the engines or its a pod that was attached to the aircraft.

Originally posted by tezzajw
I would say that they haven't managed to keep it a secret. Look at how many of us here know that it was an inside job. Look how many independent movies and documentaries have been made exposing all of the secrets;

Those movies and documentaries rely on personal opinions and circumstantial evidence at best.
Far from any smoking guns.

Where were these movies and docus before 9/11? Something of that magnitude will take years of planning, yet there was nothing. Shouldn't the fact that a governor was planning the largest terrorist attack in history raised a flag somewhere?
And Now all of a sudden the Bush administration screws up and let's college students expose their secrets? That doesn't make any sense.....

Bush/BinLaden connections

No different from the Clinton/BinLaden connections....

The other stuff have been gone over extensively here on ATS, but this:

multiple ignored warnings by intelligence agencies

Seems to be ignored a bit.
This is somewhat correct. There were mulitple warnings by intel agencies worldwide. There warnings coincided with spikes in chatter. The first round occurred in late Spring of 2001 (when it's thought the attacks were originally planned) and the second during late summer.
Were they purposely ignored? Well there's not a lot (or any for that matter) of evidence to suggest they were. But back then our intel agencies were undermanned, had no communications between the different agencies, and along with the rest of the U.S. was overall complacent.

Back to the warnings....

Now why in the world would multiple agencies worldwide warn the U.S. that terrorists were about to attack? If the Bush administration was behind it why did these agencies who have sources inside these terrorist cells think that those terrorists cells were about to attack?
Was the Bush administration so good that in 3-4 months (remember these warnings started coming by late April) they were able to fix all the problems of our intel agencies so that they were able to plant spies in other intel agencies worldwide and have those new spies provide believable evidence to their superiors that terrorists were about to strike, and that not raise a flag?

Not possible.

So, the job now would be to provide credible evidence that the terrorists were working for the Bush Admin. And since again, something like this takes at least a couple years of planning, the Bush admin. would have started working with these terrorists back in the '90s.

They made enough mistakes in the 'official' story to blow the cover of their secrecy. The trouble is that there are not enough people who know about the mistakes.

If you think the official story is full of mistakes you should hear some of the alternatives.

There will never not be any mistakes. If I told you what I had for breakfast just a few hours ago, I'll probably make a mistake. With something as large scale and complex as 9/11, everything that happened to the last detail will never be fully known. Period. Well, until time travel is discovered that is

The majority of the population and the MSM suck up the official story and believe it word for word.

Well seeing as ALL the alternatives are at least 100x worse, do you blame them?

Nineteen muslims with boxcutters crashed four planes, without any government knowledge or intervention.

Many believe 93 was shot down (which really is believable). Would that count as intervention? (Also, why would they shot down their own plane? And then keep mum about it?)

Seeing as airport security was a joke back then and seeing as hijackings in the U.S. don't happen, that is certainly not impossible. According to some of the calls, they also claimed they had bombs on board and even killed a few people. I would venture to say that most people have never been in that situation before, so them carrying out the attack successfully is not surprising.

There's also the question of why? Since the Bush admin. less than a year away from having all the stuff they put in place reversed....what was the point?
War with Afghanistan? Please. We could have bombed them to kingdom come regardless of 9/11 and no one cared.
War with Iraq? lol
We would have went to war with them whether 9/11 occurred or not. Also, apparently we have the technology and money to produce life like holographic images, make missiles appear out of thin air, somehow get thermite to explode, and cause passenger jets to disappear into thin air, yet we couldn't even fake WMDs?
That doesn't make must sense.....

So, the job now would be to provide credible evidence that the terrorists were working for the Bush Admin. And since again, something like this takes at least a couple years of planning, the Bush admin. would have started working with these terrorists back in the '90s.

ThatsJustWeird, Please go watch the docudrama "Who Killed John O'Neill?"

Al Qaeda is a radical branch funded by an organization which is a front for the CIA. Radical Fundamentalist Islam has been a CIA project since we were fighting the Russians in the middle east, a tactic to make the collateral damage too much for the Russians to gain a foothold.

OBL, as well as many other terrorist group leaders, were trained by the CIA.

It doesn't require a connection to Bush himself. It requires a connection to Daddy Bush, who headed the CIA for many years.

Conveniently, back in the early 80's. Once a Company Man, always a Company Man. You don't just miraculously lose the contacts you had.

It's possible that certain plans have been on the drawing board for Decades.

And Compartmentalization is a good reason why nobody would be in the Know except for the plotters and planners of the dirty deed. In certain jobs, you don't ask a lot of questions ever. Otherwise, you could be out of a job. Or worse... your loved ones could wake up dead.

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Seems to be ignored a bit.
This is somewhat correct. There were mulitple warnings by intel agencies worldwide. There warnings coincided with spikes in chatter. The first round occurred in late Spring of 2001 (when it's thought the attacks were originally planned) and the second during late summer.
Were they purposely ignored? Well there's not a lot (or any for that matter) of evidence to suggest they were. , yet we couldn't even fake WMDs?

That doesn't make must sense.....

Yes there were a lot of unclassified and classified warnings from domestic and foreign intell agencies. So either the government decided to ignore them or used them to thier advantage.

We did not need to fake WMDs, we have evidnece they had them and used them against their neighbors and even thier own people.

We have evidence of chemical trailers found and several MIG aircraft that were buried or hidden that had illegal equipment on them.

Also the fact that people who have defected have stated that WMDs and the material to make them were hidden or moved to Syria. Thier are even reports that Rusiians helped them omve WMDs.



[edit on 12-3-2008 by ULTIMA1]

reply to post by TheColdDragon

I know the origins of Al-Q...
Still doesn't address that little thing called evidence. Do you have any evidence we funded them for any other reason than to defeat the Soviets? And do you have any evidence we're still friends with them?
I mean, are they attacking the U.S. and U.S. interests around the world just so we can attack them back? They're purposely allowing us to attack their homelands and kill their families.....for what?