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Topic started on 8-3-2008 @ 03:02 AM by sizzle
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I stumbled across this website in one of my many searches for truth. Not saying that this is, but it might be worthy of some close ATS scrutiny. The
author presents lineage back to Jesus' younger brother James.
 A little about me, in case you're interested. I am a heterosexual, caucasian, married man and a former active duty U.S. Marine. Be very weary of
others going by my name, it has often happened before. They usually try to slander and lie about me as best they can. The truth is I'm about as
ordinary and boring as the day is long. My connection to this religious debate has to do with my Great Grandmother, Mary Ada Puryear Dugger, the
mother of my grandmother, Rosa G. Dugger Barnes. Mary Ada was one of four daughters of Solomon S. Puryear, of Macon Co. N.C.,(Solomon S. born 1847).
The name has also been spelled as Puryer, Peryer, Purrier, Perrier,Parar and many others; "Neferkheperure". They are descendants of Budic I, Count
of Cornouailles, Brittany France, ca. 900 AD.(Reference,'The Norman People' by Genealogical Publishing Co. Inc. 1001 N. Calvert St., Baltimore, Md.
21202, pages 360-361.) It seems that Budic I, was the Great Great Grandson of Argant the Prince of Brittany, France (Reference,'The Plantagenet
Ancestry' by Lt.-Col. W.H. Turton, same publisher, page 188.) It also seems that Prince Argant is the descendant, Great x 25 grandson, of James, the
younger brother of Jesus Christ. (Referance, 'Bloodline of The Holy Grail' by Laurence Gardner, pages 184-186, Chart, Descent of the Rulers of Wales
and Brittany.) This is how I am connected to it. www.voy.com...
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 03:13 AM by sizzle
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Whether you believe his claims of the 'Holy Grail' bloodline or not. The website does offer some very interesting reading material. Some of you may
be aware that I have opened topics in the past alluding to the multiple personalities of God. The Origins of Humankind, etc.
This particular site seemed to offer quite a few tidbits of interesting theories. The very ones that caused me to question, to begin with. It does
allude to passages being left out of the bible. We all know about the Apocrypha. But there is more than the Apocrypha mentioned here.
If we are to believe the ancient sumerian texts, it might even explain why some people view God as an ogre one minute, and a kind loving Father the
next.
But until I viewed this site, I was unaware that there were three extra pages left out of the Gospel of Mark.
Anyone know anything about this?
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 03:20 AM by sizzle
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I have U2U'd an ATS member who has a genealogy membership search. Hopefully he/she can be of a little help in that area.
Of course that wouldn't literally make him Jesus' bloodline; just James'
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 03:28 AM by sizzle
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 Closer to the Grail bloodline then any other, including the Sinclairs, is the line of the Puryers, Perriers, Puryears, periers, Parar,
NEFERKHEPERURE, the Fruit of the Tree of Life. The Masons; the stone from heaven.
However, nothing is ever said of us by any author. I don't know if we're being protected of slighted by those authors who have a vested interest in
promoting the lines of their wealthy european investers and or retainers.
Notice all the emblems that represent the Grail. In the feminine is the cup or chalice and the platter. In the masculine is the spear or lance and the
sword. Among the bloodline itself is the Tree of Life and The Fruit of the Tree of Life.
The Puryer family is represented on their many family coats-of-arms by fruited trees, pears, grapes and lances. Knowing the story of the Grail Quest
one would have to be a complete imbecile to miss it.
P.S. Neferkheperure, as in Neferkhe-perure, as in Neferkhe - Perure, as in "PERURE", as in Akhenaten, as in Amenhotep IV. PERURE, get it? Perure,
Perure, perure, PeRuRe, pErUrE. Now somebody please tell me, what is so damned hard about that??
End post 193: teltalheart on voy.com/40560/ www.voy.com...
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 03:45 AM by Icarus Rising
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No offense, but this person would be a living descendant or of the progeny of the family of Jesus. Not an ancestor.
I'm not questioning the providence of the claim at this point, just trying to help straighten out the terminology applied to it.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 03:53 AM by sizzle
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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
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No offense, but this person would be a living descendant or of the progeny of the family of Jesus. Not an ancestor.
I'm not questioning the providence of the claim at this point, just trying to help straighten out the terminology applied to it. 
you are absolutely right and i do stand corrected.
my apologies
A U2U would have been nice.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:03 AM by Icarus Rising
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I didn't think of that. I promise I wasn't trying to grandstand or show you up in any way. I read the thread out of personal interest and clicked
the reply button trying to help out. Its nearly 2am here and I'm having trouble sleeping tonight, so I thought I'd log on and see what's up on the
boards. Sincerely, no offense or derogatory intent on my part.
I just recently saw "The DaVinci Code" for the first time, and I've read Gardner's "Lost Secrets of the Ancient Ark," so I do have a strong
personal interest in this subject. I even started a thread on the Merovingian Kings being usurped by Charlemange and Pope Leo III a while back.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:06 AM by sizzle
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Cool! This should be right down your alley then. I always wished that I could have seen the movie or read the book, but haven't had the chance.
Kudos!
Edit: I hope to find time to read your thread as well, since it is an area of interest.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:21 AM by Icarus Rising
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Here's a link to the thread to make it easy for you when you have the time. There's
some pretty good stuff in there, right in line with your topic here. Let me know what you think, if you don't mind.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:30 AM by sizzle
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Hey! Thanks!
This looks like exactly what I have been studying so far. Or I should say, an extension.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:48 AM by sizzle
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 Consider this; if the spouse of Jesus and or his brother James came to southern France (Gaul) and raised their families there and this bloodline
had actually been introduced into the Merovingian bloodline, this seemingly "jewish" bloodline, then, as the the case truely is, is that almost
everyone; nine out of ten, people descended from Western Europe can trace their lienage back to a member of the nobility. This means at least nine out
of ten people of Western European descent are blood relatives of Jesus Christ. Nine out of ten people of Westen European descent, when they go to
church on Sunday, are worshiping a blood relative in Jesus Christ. www.voy.com...
Not sure I can agree with that personally, but just for consideration. Personally I do not worship Jesus' earthly relatives or my own.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 04:59 AM by space cadet
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Very intriguging topic, I have long believed that there would have to be descendants of Jesus's family members, even if he did not have children. I
have no real reason to believe that Jesus himself did not father a child, I don't remember the bible saying he couldn't, or that he didn't father a
child. At the same time, the bible (as we know it) is not whole, and without all the information available in the complete works, we are left with a
puzzle that is forever perplexing.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 05:11 AM by sizzle
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This is more or less what has put me on this search. But my resources are limited to the internet.
The idea that the illuminati knows something that we don't, and keeps us dumbed down, caused my persistence.
And if some parts were left out of the bible, how do we know for sure, what all was done?
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 05:25 AM by sizzle
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I can't help but believe that if any correct part was left intact, it had to be, "Test(Question) all things...."
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 05:40 AM by sizzle
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 Some feel people need the 'fear of God', or the Devil, to keep them in line.
I say, if the lack of the fear of God will cause you to do the wrong thing, instead of the right thing, then you weren't a very good person in the
first place, now were you!
-teltalheart
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In conclusion:
Brotherhood organizations use War, Religion, Poverty and Strife in order to keep human being preoccupied and fighting amoung themselves. In this way
they gain power and control, amoung the obvious advantages for their Anunnaki overlords.
How many of you are conserned about your jobs?
How many of you are concerned about the war in Iraq?
How many of you are concerned about terrorism?
See how well it works!
It should now be easy for you to pick out Anunnaki backed, Brotherhood secret society governments. www.voy.com...
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 05:48 AM by sizzle
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 Christians hardly ever talk about ancient Sumeria. It is a shame, because Sumer is where the Garden of Eden was located, which is in what we
all know today as Iraq.
The argument over Evolution and Creation has been going on for quite some time now. Both sides had better read the bible again(and in its
Hebrew original).
Christians get themselves into trouble when they say that mankind was created by "God." Many are not aware of the fact that the bible
reflects that humans were created by more then one "god." "And the Lord God formed Man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils
the breath of life, and Man became a living soul." This is in chapter 2, Verse 7 of the book of Genesis, King James English translation, and it is
what Christians believe.
If Christians were to study the Hebrew bible, which is the ORIGINAL, they would discover that, first of all, the creative act is attributed to a
certain ELOHIM---- a plural term that at the least should be translated as "gods," not "God." And second, they would become aware that the quoted
verse also explains why "The Adam" was created: "For there was no Adam to till the land." These are two important --- and unsettling --- hints
to who had created Man and why. www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 09:54 AM by AshleyD
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I don't believe Jesus had children but it is highly possible there are surviving distant relatives. A couple centuries after Jesus the Roman records
show Jesus' grand nephews being questioned before the courts. Being that Jesus had multiple half brothers and sisters, it is possible descendants of
Mary and Joseph still exist somewhere in the world. But it is my opinion that these descendants would be Jesus' great great great great great (etc.)
grand nephews and nieces- not children. But if the line died out somewhere along the way then that is fine, too.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 11:02 AM by meremortal
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jesus could have had children but it could of been omitted from the bible, like alot of information has been omitted or added later!!
i wonder did they forget to omit that jesus turned the water into wine at the wedding of cana and he said alittle wine is good for the soul
think they slipped up there!
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 11:10 AM by meremortal
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jesus could have had children but it could of been omitted from the bible, like alot of information has been omitted or added later!!
i wonder did they forget to omit that jesus turned the water into wine at the wedding of cana and he said alittle wine is good for the soul
think they slipped up there!
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 12:26 PM by St Udio
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If the Jesus person was in reality 'Christ' a Divine entity made flesh,
then fathering children would be the same No-No that the fallen Angels
weren't allowed to do.
As i recall the Earth population had to be wiped out by the flood,
because the Anninuke~'fallen angels' fathered or created offspring
from mortal women, the offspring were to be known as the Nephilim.
So, i really doubt that the 'Messiah' would go so low as to impregnate a mortal woman, if only because history showed that the product of that type
of life pursuit, by messengers from Heaven, ended up being destructive.
not ever Holy
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