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When I met fellow researcher Jim Hickman www.thehickmanreport.com... for the first time last year, one of the things we discussed was the 509th. Jim provided me with a copy of a uniform insignia patch (left) he had recently located for the 509th. My immediate reaction when seeing it was, “here is the proof we’ve been looking for pertaining to the 509th involvement with the Roswell Incident.” It appeared pretty obvious that the 509th was identified on the insignia with the numbers 509; the B-2 Stealth Bomber was shown; and to my surprise an alien head and hands were depicted. This was it! All I had to do was contact the Air Force and verify what was on the insignia. Much to my disappointment after five months of corresponding with the Air Force, I discovered I did not have the proof I had hoped for.
Below are the questions I asked about the insignia patch in my FOIA request and the responses I received from the Historian at Edwards Air Force Base Flight Test Center.
I contacted the 509th at Whiteman AFB in Missouri to submit a (FOIA) Freedom of Information Act Request on Sept. 5, 2003. I received permission to submit the FOIA from the FOIA/Base Records Manager a few days later and I immediately did so with several questions pertaining to the insignia. The next correspondence I received was not from Whiteman AFB however, because my FOIA request had been transferred to the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB, California.
A. This is not an official patch.[...] No official emblem would display a unit number without also indicating its function---bombing, reconnaissance, fighter, etc.
The FOIA Custodian at Edwards AFB would make a determination whether any records could be released or withheld from disclosure under the FOIA. A few days later I received a letter from a USAF Colonel at Edwards AFB, with the title of Staff Judge Advocate, indicating, "A search of all relevant agencies has found no records responsive to your request."
Again a few days later I was surprised when I received a large envelope from a PhD Historian at the Air Force Flight Test Center at Edwards AFB containing not only answers to my questions about the insignia, but a copy of the United States Air Force "History of the 509th Bomb Wing" Fact Sheet, and an Air Force Reference Series, "Air Force Combat Wings, Lineage and Honors Histories 1947-1977" pertaining to the 509th. As one who is interested in the 509th, I considered that information a bonus.
Originally posted by internos
i have to say that i agree with your construction, and yes, i take with a grain of salt the explanation as i take with a grain of salt the whole story of these patches.
Originally posted by Bigwhammy
Badges Badges we don't need no stinking Badges
This a very interesting thread. The Newsweek presentation is very informative.
I wonder if anyone in the military or ex military here at ATS has ever seen one of these for real or just jokes?