Has Religion Done More Good Than Bad For Humanity?, page 1

reply to post by scientist

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Hey thanks for the well thought out reply, you bring up a comparison of group think and religion. I also agree with you on faith, being not so religious myself doesn't mean I dont have faith. I have a question about gnostics, from my limited understanding isn't it more of a mindset or belief which goes along with religion? or is it more of it's own religion? So summing it up you believe individuals who take part of religion do the good, while the bad happens as a collective body?

reply to post by bgaty

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Having a Spiritual belief system that is personalized and running within the realm of reality according to the given understandings is a good thing because God is real.

However when people as a group, (religion), start focusing on the ritualized phyical aspects of the spiritual belief system, and they lose focus from the true nature of the "spiritual reality" then the religion becomes toxic.

We can use "Christianity" as a model for understanding.

Christ was/is real. The Christ being defined as an understandable extention of the original "creator god", and being the "original child". The Christ, our creator's chosen being comes to this little planet. He delivers the message. However it is in the humanizing of the understandings where the "christ ians" become toxic. They start yelling at the world they they are the rightous ones. This is a lie. However they feel because they've taken a sunday bath and misunderstood a couple of lines of text that they are "saved". This "Salvation" established within the confines of thier own mind, not being in reality, gives them "free licence" to act badly and do damming things to their own soul.

However the "salvation" is real in the context that if you see what you've done wrong and feel bad and then stop doing it you are free.

Let us look at a charactor. Bill was a bully. Bill went out getting drunk and starting fights. Bill one night got beat down. Bill though oh lord save me. Bill then became a christian. Bill takes the sunday bath and makes the confesion. Bill feels he's saved and rightious. SO Bill begins to bully "nonbelievers".

Bill has changed his bad behavior from a blind agression to a focused agression. Bill didn't change the agression.

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