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Topic started on 6-3-2008 @ 06:23 PM by SilentShadow

Florida, Michigan may vote again


www.news.com.au
The Democratic primaries in Florida and Michigan were held early this year despite warnings from party bosses that they would be punished for doing so. The votes were declared meaningless and were not to count towards any candidate's overall tally.

But with the party's nomination race locked in a war of attrition between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, those states' delegates could be crucial in selecting a winner.
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reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 07:41 AM by jsobecky
reply to post by Thurisaz



Originally posted by Thurisaz
oh farout, I just read this in the Australian.

Florida, Michigan broke rules with early vote so may require a second poll...

How corrupt.

I would modify your post to read


Florida, Michigan broke rules with early vote so may require a second poll as penalty, their delegates will not be counted, no matter how Hillary Clinton tries to cheat them into her column...


reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 08:16 AM by SilentShadow
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to
post by Thurisaz



Originally posted by Thurisaz
oh farout, I just read this in the Australian.

Florida, Michigan broke rules with early vote so may require a second poll...

How corrupt.

I would modify your post to read


Florida, Michigan broke rules with early vote so may require a second poll as penalty, their delegates will not be counted, no matter how Hillary Clinton tries to cheat them into her column...


How is it just Hillary cheating them? Wouldn't the early vote have to have been accepted by both delegates (Hillary AND Obama)?


reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 08:42 AM by jsobecky
The candidates agreed that they would support the DNC's decision to punish Fla. and MI.



No other state, under the DNC's regulations, could hold a primary or caucus before Feb. 5. But last year, first Florida and then Michigan defiantly scheduled their 2008 primaries in January. This queue jumping not only undermined the special status of the four small states, but it also meant unfairly squeezing ahead of the throng of 22 states that had slated primaries and caucuses for Feb. 5.

The abuse was so flagrant that not only did the DNC play tough guy (stripping Michigan and Florida of all their convention delegates), but the party chairs in the four small front-of-the-pack states pressured the candidates into signing a pledge not to campaign in the two outlaw primaries. Obama and Edwards, in fact, even took their names off the Jan. 15 Michigan primary ballot in which Clinton beat "uncommitted" by a 55-to-40 percent margin.


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

www.salon.com...

But then, after she got her butt handed to her in SC, Clinton all of a sudden found religion for Florida:



Only when the dimensions of her South Carolina setback were clear did Clinton begin portraying the Florida vote as ... well ... the 2000 Florida vote. The former first lady suddenly had a new cause -- justice for Florida. She pledged on primary night to do everything in her power to guarantee that "Florida's Democratic delegates [are] seated."


Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


She only wants to follow the rules when they are in her favor.


reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 09:39 AM by seagull
reply to post by jsobecky



Does the DNC even have the right to sanction a state? I don't know, I doubt it, personally.

Maybe someone who knows more about this can chime in? Obama and Edwards made a tactical mistake in thinking Clinton would agree to play by the same rules as everyone else.

I'm somewhat betwixt and between on allowing a revote.


reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 10:42 AM by bigbert81
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Yes, I 100% agree with you.

There NEEDS to be a revote. It's not fair that millions of people's voices are not heard, or that Hillary cheated and went against her PLEDGE.

A revote is, by far, the best solution.
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