The Real Political Conspiracy - Election 2008

A year ago I wouldn't have said this. In fact, I'd have called someone who did an idiot.

Is there anyone left now that doesn't think this whole election has been previously scripted out like a soap opera? That doesn't believe some powerful people have already decided who will win the nomination for both major parties, and possibly even who will win the general election in November?

First we have all the evidence showing votes for Paul and Huckabee being given to McCain. But there are either no challenges to that information or they are quickly hushed up. So, just like you can't win a game against crooked referees, for awhile now we've known that McCain was the "anointed" Republican.

Still, many of us were suckered into believing that there was still a real race going on for the democratic party nomination. O(bs)ama comes out of nowhere to challenge the perceived frontrunner Hillary and even cranks out 10 primary wins in a row to take the lead. All the pundits say she should consider quitting, and the polls have last Tuesday's primaries as too close to call. The media says Hillary has to win big to stay in the race. The exit polls say it's very close ..... and then despite all that what happens? Hillary (magically?) gets the big wins she needs to be able to stay in the race.

So, I'm calling the democratic nomination already decided. Hillary will have it given to her, and it will look to anyone one not paying close attention like she staged a miraculous comeback to do it. BS. It was all drama and all decided long ago.

Now if I'm right, it looks very bad for democracy in the U.S. because they truly are all in on it and we have been totally duped for sooooo long.

Thoughts?

[edit on 3/5/2008 by centurion1211]

I agree Centurion, I had my hopes till but if you look at post I did last year I claim that its going to be between Hillary and McCain they are the chosen ones been chosen even before the circus media that is played for the consumption of the American people to keep the illusion that is a democratic system still working in America.

What a joke.

I can definetly see where you're coming from with this line of thinking. The only thing I know for sure is that when I went to the caucas I seen for myself who was voting for who in my local district, as for on the larger scale, who knows what's real?

McCain has it sewn up because his buddies will seize control of the company with the voting machines.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Yup, been saying it for years. There's no difference in the party, it's the REAL PTB, behind the scenes that make these decisions. That's why Hillary will be the next prez. She's a part of the "shadow gov.". They're "liking" her. It would be difficult to get a Rep candidate back in, they've been pushing the envelope for too long. Better to have a Dem, that's in their pocket, sitting there for them. Business as usual.

Welcome to the club, centurion...:up. Spot on.

The timing of the leak that sank Obama in Ohio came at the most crucial moment possible in order to give Hillary the win:



It has caused only a minor ruckus in Canada, with a few pundits rolling their eyes and a gaggle of polititians blustering away in Ottawa, but, if I was an American, I'd be really angry over this.

edit to add BAN thread on this issue;

www.abovetopsecret.com...



[edit on 5/3/08 by masqua]

reply to post by marg6043

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Thanks Marg. Guess I've been a "late bloomer" on this. Makes me sick, actually, to finally come to this realization.

Question: what color bar do you suppose you'll get after the blue one is filled up?

Yeah, I agree with all the posts so far. I can not believe she won in Ohio! Come on sheepies! He husband passed NAFTA and gutted your states job market, but here she is arguing a point of concern over Obama's harsh comments about NAFTA reform. AND IT WORKED, just like SOME dumb Americans BELIEVE Obama is a muslim!

I honestly believe he is not part of the NWO plan and he has been righfully gaining momentum with the people of this "democracy"! Amonst younger people who more often than older generations may actually consider that 9/11 was staged, the NWO is real and the NAU is coming! He is not bought off and it not playing by the PTB rules. When is he going to get nasty and PUBLICLY ask Hillary about her Bilderburger connections???

I fear he will be our generations JFK. Unless they can fraud up the nomination to Hillary before the DNC in Denver in August. I see it one or two ways, either way Obama will be taken out, the NWO gets their next puppet for the masses and can claim it was (again) the work of terrorists. Either way, some Republicans would be swayed into voting out of compassion (for what has happened) for Hillary, thus she takes the office. The PTB really want Hillary, more so than McCain, I think. I so do not want this to happen!!

If it goes to the DNC with both still fighting for it, I see the old lone-gunman assassination taking Obama out. If they fail to swing it to Hillary before the DNC and she has to bow out, I fear an even worse scenario, a dirty-bomb going of at the DNC taking Obama and thousands of supporters out too.

Another possibility would be Obama winning the whole thing, including the presidency, but making Hillary Vice-Pres. I don't think he is that dumb as he would be effectively setting up his own assassination. Crazy, I know, but after 9/11 and the last 7 years, I think pretty much anything is possible and I would not for a moment underestimate the NWO attempting it, especially when Obama (our JFK) comes along and strikes some fear into there little black hearts.

Final note....people of America, can't you see how voting for FAMILIES is not democratic! We do not have or need a dynasty of a royal family like Britain!! Father, than son has got us into facism deeper than ever, yet some are now willing to pass on to husband than wife? When America discentigrates, it is going to be the citizens' fault. Ever seen the movie, "Idiocracy"? That really is going to be us (well not us, but the survivors)

[edit on 5-3-2008 by percievedreality]

Whether Billary or Obama or McCain wins, nothing will change. Unless you are 100% beholden to the corporations and internationalists, you don't have a chance. The two candidates that were not owned by the elite, Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich never had a chance. It all comes down to money....money to run the campaigns, money to lobby, money to pay off people.

The three remaining major candidates:

Hillary Clinton - "Parlayed" $1,000 into $100,000, in reality a payoff or bribe, whereby one croonie bought long, and the other bought short, and whichever one profited, that is the one that got transferred into her account.

Obama - Tony Rezko and his bargain land and mansion sale to Obama

McCain- and the Keating Five, and the S & L failure

What a choice, three internationalists, three crooks, three liars, and one of them will be the next POTUS.

I hope is hot pink, I have not idea what color goes next. but I will be waiting to see.

You know this family voting think is starting to look very suspicious to me, looks like a kind of dictatorship but with different family names.


[edit on 5-3-2008 by marg6043]

reply to post by percievedreality

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Hillary Clinton only wins where there are Diebold voting machines or the like that can be rigged and falsified in her favour.

The U.S.A. definitely needs foreign observers for the November election.

Honestly, can't all of you get together and ban the electronic machines by November?

[edit on 5/3/08 by Pellevoisin]

Hillary still has no chance. Math and Mo are not on her side. If she steals it in a smoky backroom, fine. You're right and Rove is in on it. But I'm telling you she's no McCain. He locked this nomination years ago with a kiss to the ass cheeks of George Bush.

reply to post by RANT

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I completely forgot about that one, you are right McCain was after all one of the only ones that stood by his man, Bush baby.

We all know to who both of them cater too.

Give that man a star

Vote Left, vote Right; it does not matter. At the end of the day they share a toddy out of view of the cameras and have a good laugh at our expense.

Occasionally they throw one of their own to the wolves to make it look good for the masses. After all, they know better than us, don't they?

reply to post by marg6043

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BTW, how do you like my new way of writing the name of Hillary's (Billary's?) opponent -------> O(bs)ama?

The "bs" is for, well, his BS. But it also serves to remind people of the similarities between Obama and Osama.


In a sad way this whole election fraud thing is a relief to me. I've gotten so caught up in all the partisan bickering in past elections, but now I can just sit back and do something else way more interesting and productive with my life.

Doesn't mean I won't still take a partisan shot from time to time when one seems well deserved. It just means that I won't be like one of the adversaries on the Hannity & Colmes show screaming over top of each other any more.

[edit on 3/5/2008 by centurion1211]

Why bother with observers? As I said, it really doesn't matter which one of them gets elected. All three stand for the exact same thing. Corporations, Corporations, Corporates.
Welcome to the United Corporations of America
The two-party system is a sham. There is really only ONE party, the Repulbicrats.

Centurion, remember and be glad that the same way we here in this boards are aware of the political system scam, so millions and millions of Americans everywhere.

And our government knows that we know, we are a danger to them and if we were not a danger to them they will not be doing everything in their corrupted power to oppress and pass bills to keep us the masses in control.

They can try but as usual is the people that at the end holds the real power.

Sometimes the length of this Conspiracy talk amazes me. Don’t get me wrong about this, I’m not happy with the way things have gone or the choices we are now left with, but I don’t believe it’s some grand political conspiracy. I believe we are left with our current choices because that is how the American people have voted. Just because the majority of America disagrees with you and I about who we want in office, does not mean that there is a conspiracy.

Honestly I think the only way a lot of you would be satisfied is if Ron Paul came out and crushed everyone in every single primary. Then you would be out here talking about how finally we had a fair election. Quite honestly if that would have happened, I might be the one crying conspiracy!

And let us also not forget that no matter who is elected President this fall; it is not going to be the end of the world. Do not forget we also have the power to elect our Senators and other leaders. If POTUS doesn’t go your way, get out there and try to get some people in office who will fiercely oppose the President on things you don’t want accomplished. As some of you have already said, the real power lies with the people in this country, and we will not stand idly by and allow anyone to destroy this country.

Good ideas, but no, the power truely is lost, out of the peoples hands......Diabold (the electronic voting maching manufacturer) is actual about to sell out to some other larger (even more deceptive) corporation! If Congress has no oversight, us normal American citizens certainly don't, even we it come to our "free" election process! LIES. LIES. LIES.