Fascist America - CA Judges Orders NO Homeschooling!, page 2
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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 07:44 AM by Lokey13
reply to post by antar



Okay so your the 2% of home schooled kids that either have a genetic disorder/ disease/ or "intremurual problems" that keep them from public school. ask.yahoo.com... <<< this link shows the percentage of homeschooled kids and that the most common answers to children being homeschooled are either parents scared of the environment or to provide RELIGIOUS or MORAL instruction. I'm not blowing a whitsle cause it isn't a truth ot anything antar.


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 07:46 AM by Lokey13
nces.ed.gov...

another link, so 2.2% of americans are homeschooled, 36% of that say for religious reasons. The other percentage goes to fear of environment and a better education, to bad these homeschooled kids don't get to elope very much; Sad cause they're definently missing out.



reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 08:51 AM by Harman
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Read your own links

Sixteen percent of homeschooled students had parents whose primary reason for homeschooling was dissatisfaction with the academic instruction available at other schools, making this the third most common primary reason for homeschooling.


The quality of the schoolingsystem is the third-most mentioned reason.

While homeschooled kids have a reputation for being a bit socially awkward, their test scores are typically above average.


And they seem to get better test-results.


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 08:54 AM by Griff



reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 09:12 AM by TheWalkingFox
It seems people forget that state governments regulate home schooling. Every state I've ever been to requires that home schoolers. Look at the site posted at the top of the article: www.hsc.org...

From under the "getting started" portion of the page...
Tutoring

Parents with a valid teaching credential can act as tutors for their children, or parents may employ a credentialed teacher. However, tutors and parents who choose to tutor their own children must fulfill certain legal requirements, including the teacher must have a valid and current California state credential appropriate to the grade level of the child or children being taught .


Now, from the rense article:
The panel of judges ruled that the Long family failed to demonstrate "that [the] mother has a teaching credential such that the children can be said to be receiving an education from a credentialed tutor," and that their involvement and supervision by Sunland Christian School's independent study programs was of no value.


There are systems and processes you have to go through. Being Christian does NOT entitle you to special legal privileges.


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 09:31 AM by 2 cents
reply to post by Lokey13



My younger brother was home schooled by my parents and it was not religiously motivated. He is now 30 and doing very good for himself. He is not antisocial at all.

Public schools are a joke. A daycare center while parents go to work. This is not an 'intelligent' move as you describe. This is about control. Not about what is best for people. If we were truly concerned about education the schools would be doing a better job. This country is going down hill fast and you can thank the glorious public, government, education system for that. How can we keep our freedoms if we keep turning out mindless, ignorant robots.


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 10:13 AM by Quazga
Originally posted by Lokey13
reply to
post by antar



Okay so your the 2% of home schooled kids that either have a genetic disorder/ disease/ or "intremurual problems" that keep them from public school. ask.yahoo.com... <<< this link shows the percentage of homeschooled kids and that the most common answers to children being homeschooled are either parents scared of the environment or to provide RELIGIOUS or MORAL instruction. I'm not blowing a whitsle cause it isn't a truth ot anything antar.


Religious or Moral instruction is a far cry from "radical religious agenda".

1. I homeschool because its the moral thing to do. Our public schools are filled with unions which don't allow punishment for crappy teachers, nor does it allow incentives for great teachers.

2..Our public schooling system was developed and funded by businesses who wanted the public schools to crank out "worker bees".

3. I can teach my child in 2 months what the school teaches in a year. If you put your child in Public School you are basically retarding them. But of course you won't know it because all his peers will be equally retarded.


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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 10:31 AM by baked tater
reply to post by Kruel


Because it makes it easier for the government
to indocrinate the masses if all of the yunguns are herded into goverment sanctioned buildings for the greater part of their youth.

I predict a rise in teacher education credits/incentives, by our federal government soon. Enticing like minded(which means feeble minded easily led sheeple) into teaching positions will come next. IMO.


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 11:25 AM by otherhalf
Socialization:

Smedley had this information processed using the statistical program for the social sciences and the results demonstrated that the home-schooled children were better socialized and more mature than the children in the public school. The home-schooled children scored in the 84th percentile while the matched sample of public school children only scored in the 27th percentile.



In addition, several studies have been done to measure homeschoolers' "self-concept," which is the key objective indicator for establishing a child's self-esteem. A child's degree of self-esteem is one of the best measurements of his ability to successfully interact on a social level. One such study was conducted by John Wesley Taylor, using the Piers-Harris Children's Self-Concept Scale to evaluate 224 home-schooled children. They study found that 50 percent of the children scored above the 90th percentile, and only 10.3 percent scored below the national average.



In 2004, Dr. Susan McDowell wrote “But What About Socialization? Answering the Perpetual Home Schooling Question: A Review of the Literature” following a challenge to document the common idea that homeschoolers are not socialized in comparison to those students in public schools. McDowell, whose PhD from Vanderbilt University is in educational leadership, claims: “It’s a non-issue today. All the research shows children are doing well.”


In the public school system, children are socialized horizontally, and temporarily, into conformity with their immediate peers. Home educators seek to socialize their children vertically, toward responsibility, service, and adulthood, with an eye on eternity


From
here

(emphasis mine)


reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 11:34 AM by otherhalf
Race:

There was no significant difference between minority and white homeschooled students. For example, in grades K-12, both white and minority students scored, on the average, in the 87th percentile. In math, whites scored in the 82nd percentile while minorities scored in the 77th percentile. In the public schools, however, there is a sharp contrast. White public school eighth grade students, nationally scored the 58th percentile in math and the 57th percentile in reading. Black eighth grade students, on the other hand, scored on the average at the 24th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading. Hispanics scored at the 29th percentile in math and the 28th percentile in reading.


Wealth:

the average cost per homeschool student is $546 while the average cost per public school student is $5,325. Yet the homeschool children in this study averaged in 85th percentile while the public school students averaged in the 50th percentile on nationally standardized achievement tests


found that eighth grade students whose parents spend $199 or less on their home education score, on the average, in the 80th percentile. Eighth grade students whose parents spend $400 to $599 on their home education also score on the average, in the 80th percentile


Parent Education:

found no significant statistical differences in academic achievement between those students taught by parents with less formal education and those students taught by parents with higher formal education


The findings of this study do not support the idea that parents need to be trained and certified teachers to assure successful academic achievement of their children.


Regulation:

whether a state had a high degree of regulation (i.e., curriculum approval, teacher qualifications, testing, home visits) or a state had no regulation of homeschoolers, the homeschooled students in both categories of states performed the same. The students all scored on the average in the 86th percentile regardless of state regulation.


All from
here
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