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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 07:34 AM by Balez
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Nice post!
Was on another site which hosted these images and was about to post them.... then you already had done it!
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 07:34 AM by Beachcoma
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Originally posted by internos
"A" and "B" are (at least apparently) moving together, imho:
Look like B is moving faster to me. What are they (A and B) supposed to be anyway?
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 07:37 AM by squiz
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Anyone familiar with my posts will know I'm an avid supporter of plasma cosmology, and from a plasma cosmology point of view this is simply
stunning.
From my understanding I would say that what we are seeing is an asteroid reacting to Saturn's electric plasma toroid.
Saturn surrounded by electric doughnut
The difference in electric potential in the object and the plasma can cause cometary behavior, even if only briefly. There is much evidence that
comets are not dirty snowballs but are made of similar composition to asteroids that are reacting to the sun's radial electric field. Similarly this
object may be reacting to Saturn's vast electrical system.
Just beautiful!
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 07:43 AM by timelike
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That is a very interesting conjecture. I am unfamiliar with it, could you elaborate?
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:01 AM by squiz
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I can try, firstly a better explanation of electric comet theory may help using words better than mine.
Comets are electrical discharges in the thin plasma that permeates the solar system. Because they spend most of their time far from the Sun, their
rocky nuclei are in equilibrium with the voltage at that distance. But as they accelerate in toward the Sun, their voltage is increasingly out of
equilibrium with the voltage and increasing density of the solar plasma. A plasma sheath forms around them—the coma and tail. And filamentary
currents—jets—between the sheath and the nucleus erode, particle by powdery particle, the circular depressions with terraced walls that are
typical of electrical discharge machining. As the discharge channels move across the surface of the comet, they burn it black.
source
This stuff is just a hobby of mine, I'm not a professional, but there is a great deal of evidence to support this. It also goes hand in hand with the
electric sun hypothesis.
The electric plasma flow around Saturn has been confirmed, (much to the annoyance of the detractors of plasma cosmology) so it's seems reasonable to
me that any object of significant difference in charge will also exhibit various degrees of cometary activity when intersecting the plasma torus, in
this case an electrical discharge.
If you go to the link you'll find much more information in the archive or subject index section.
hope that helps.
Edit to add.
Actually you can see that the plume is being squeezed in the middle before it tapers off to dissipate, that's a sure sign of the jets own magnetic
field acting upon the particles.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:07 AM by CaptGizmo
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:11 AM by Dagar
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Originally posted by Havalon
Hmmmn!,
It is not shooting at the object, but is fact "gettin the heck out of there!"
Excellent stuff Mike and Internos, flagged and starred and back slapped!
Should we be worried?
H
That's what I thought when I saw the animation.
It looks like something's accidently found itself in the crosshairs of that camera and decided to vamoose in the hope it can get out of shot before
it gets seen. Nearly managed it too... lol
Just an opinion, mind you, but it sure does give off that impression.
Great find  Starred and flagged ... Can we have an applause smiley please? Threads like this could sure do with it!
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:14 AM by internos
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This frame seems to show the start of the jet: it's frame # 22: around at 66% of the full animation.
Ed: source
saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:14 AM by ATSGUY
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Yea it is actually a giant mother ship called "new Jerusalem", yes just like the one in the bible. It has been here since biblical times and the
captain of the ship named Tan is in contact with a person named Riley Martin and Michael, also probably some others on the planet...
here is were i talk about it and explain everything...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
where it says a and b, the smaller bright ball of light could be one of the 3 defense spheres around the mother ship...i think the post above me
really shows it if those are not the moons of Saturn.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:26 AM by internos
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Originally posted by Beachcoma
Originally posted by internos
"A" and "B" are (at least apparently) moving together, imho:
Look like B is moving faster to me. What are they (A and B) supposed to be anyway?
Mmmm, yes, it seems that there's a difference in their speed. Is not mentioned what they could be: in according to the source, the camera was
pointing toward SATURN- E RING: the bigger one has an appearance that i've never seen before: honestly, i have no idea.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:28 AM by MrPenny
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In the full-res image from jpl, that sure does, kinda' sorta', almost, look like the same type of reflection created by the bright objects in the
top of the image. Could its apparent movement be created by the motion? With the reflection being cast across the lense?
I wish we had some sober idea what the object in question actually is. I'm leaning toward an optical reflection of the object in the top of
the image.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:37 AM by internos
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Originally posted by MrPenny
reply to post by internos
In the full-res image from jpl, that sure does, kinda' sorta', almost, look like the same type of reflection created by the bright objects in the
top of the image. Could its apparent movement be created by the motion? With the reflection being cast across the lense?
I wish we had some sober idea what the object in question actually is. I'm leaning toward an optical reflection of the object in the top of
the image.
I don't know, but that would make sense at least: another option would be that the jet is E rings particles following a body after the collision and
which became visible at a certain point:
the following video shows a sequence of a collision between Prometheus and the rings: but after staring at the whole sequence of the OP in hi res, it
seems that actually the jet is not visible before frame # 22:
this is definately puzzling me
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:08 AM by Allred5923
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From what I have seen thus far, I believe it has to be something that wanted to avoid a visual connection with Casseni.
It was a very good anima. of the event and it does suggest some sort of intelligent intention.
For the objects around it (The 3 companions) they do seem to follow slightly faster, but with out definate direction of travel, could be trick of the
eye, then again mike, "Maybe not?"
I have seen quite a few terrestial shots from our roving satelites, but this by far does raise more question than does absolute answers and
conclusions.
I don't get here as often as I like to too discuss thing's like this, but you get my vote for intense and very needed disclosures that we are not
alone in this vast Universe......"Kudos Guy's!!!!"
One more thing, "I do believe it is not a vapor from a travelling Asteroid or comet or even moon, the brightness opposed to the surroundings, the
action concure with the other 3 objects that seemingly to be travelling with it and , if by chance it were something explanable, it is as bright as
any star I have ever wittnessed." IMHO "and I know that is no star."
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:30 AM by olegkvasha
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Nice post Mike
I think it may be one of the moons. Here are 2 more animations of what appears to be the same "object" but at a different time:
The spray you saw also appears when the object enters and exits the camera view:
enjoy
/rich
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:35 AM by MrPenny
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Good job. I have to go with reflection on the lense for the original posts.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:42 AM by d2che
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:47 AM by internos
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EXCELLENT work.
It seems to draw an orbit at all (a strange one, BTW): it's Saturn's Ring E:
In this case, even the particles tail explanation does make sense, imho.
And the particles becomes as more visible as more the bright object, whatever it is, if far from camera...
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:56 AM by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
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Mike,
------ Would you say that you are in desperate need for evidence to constitute a certain thing that is of personal interest, and with this lust for
evidence you are overtaken by its emotions that it bestows on you and subsequently stop at things that only slightly resemble the obsession that you
are looking for, and then you twist it up any way that you can making empty hypothesis about why the universe can and can not act in specific ways due
to your opinion rather than actual fact so that said pictures and theories can at least seem to trick the mind into sounding true?
In the above I calim to know no more and no less than you or anyone else about the current subject, rather I am asking a question.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:58 AM by 44soulslayer
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Simply incredible stuff Mike and Internos... im dumbfounded!
Whats the source of these images?
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 10:09 AM by kleverone
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Great Post Mike  Nice work on the animation as well Internos!
This is really interesting stuff.
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