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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:07 PM by rationalgaze
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This is an obvious fake video and people are eating it up because they are eager to hate the troops, which is a little disturbing to see. Even if it
was real it is nothing compared to other things that are going on over there (to human beings, but no one seems to really care about that) and people
calling murder on this guy are as traitorous as those who started the war.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:08 PM by Ox
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Are you going to throw me off a cliff?
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:09 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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No, but you're violating ATS T&C rules and you don't even realize it..
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:10 PM by Xeros
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I'm not sure what you mean. On the one hand you say it's fake and on the other you say that it's okay if it's real, because animals are less than
humans. hmmm. Well let's all laugh at killing animals and act like its ok then.  There's numerous other videos of US soldiers hurting/killing
animals anyway.
And I'm not saying it's definately real, or want to hurt anyone over it. The mentality just makes me fill sick.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:10 PM by Ox
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What I don't get is that all of you who are saying "it's a fake" are giving NO arguement... Why is it a fake? Cause its a soldier and puppy? But
if it had lights all over it and made a whirring noise and few off in the air it would be a UFO puppy right? Get a grip.. There are bad people in the
world.. some of them wear uniforms.. some of them are just cowards who wouldnt say boo to another person.. Wake up
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:11 PM by Badge01
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Originally posted by theendisnear69
Whether this video is fake or not there are still numerous other videos of our "brave men in uniform" doing even more disgusting things to human
beings. My dad was in the military so was my uncle and many of their friends also were, and I can tell you they were all demented they are seriously
messed up in the head. I don't know how you could lower yourself to kill another human being for such an unjust cause.
If the people refused to fight for their corrupt leaders there would be no wars. All soldiers are just puppets for an evil cause. 
Maybe we should all get 40 lashes. You know, because, eventually we'll deserve it?
Maybe your family has some bad genetics, not the military?
Not to provoke you, but this comment you posted is no argument, it just tells people you have anger issues, which may, indeed, be valid.
Does it not sicken you that in this age of prankery and digital manipulation that everyone just wanted to kill the imagined perpetrator?
Let's not be so easily manipulated, m'kay, folks?
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:11 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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But they're too ignorant and chalk the video up as fake.. because its labeled as such on youtube.

Personal insults are a violation of ATS' T&C rules, in case you didn't know.  Now you know.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:12 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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I didn't say it was "okay." However, chicken is a meat source, is it not? In order for something to be ate, it must be killed... Why get all worked
up over a video of chicken being killed to be eaten?
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:15 PM by Xeros
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Yes i agree. But that's another story.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:15 PM by theendisnear69
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i have known many people in the military many of whom are not related to me which i stated before, and if it does not piss you off that innocent
people are being killed maybe there's something wrong with you
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:15 PM by Ox
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Oh.. So here's a video of a guy who is faking killing a cow at a slaughterhouse.. Yeah he doesnt really cut the cows throat, he just pretends.. and
then some guy sprays red syrup all over the wall and there is a puppet cow thrashing around dying.. yeah its fake cause I said so.. that's it..
youtube
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:16 PM by jerico65
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But it's ok for you to tell him to "go hug a rattlesnake"???
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:17 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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You see, some of you are already trying to insinuate that I am condoning animal cruelty. I'm not. If this video were real, which by the looks of it,
it's not, then by all means, punish the bastard that did it. However, it's funny to me that the dog didn't yelp, or squirm or anything...I
guarantee you, if you hold a pup up by the neck like that for an extended period of time, he will squirm or at least have leg movement. That dog
didn't at all.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:18 PM by Badge01
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I'll give you an argument.
1. classic magic trick. Film the close up shot of the puppy;
2. quickly substitute the stuffed animal off camera;
3. execute trick;
4. don't show puppy being given to someone else.
That's why this isn't a wide shot showing a live puppy and then the guy tossing him in one continuous frame.
Because an animal squirms around, I seriously doubt it would be easy to throw a 5lb dog 100 yards, yet the stuffed animal sails in a high arc.
In fact someone doing a prank would do it exactly this way. Someone seriously bent on abusing an animal would likely smack it around and then throw
it. But kicking a stuffed animal obviously would be fake.
Even the smirking look is 'hah, we're tricking you'.
Otherwise why video kicking, throwing or abusing a dog. It happens all the time, but they videoed this one?
The reason for the video is for the prank, not to get a record of animal abuse, fercryinoutloud.
If it was any more transparent it would have had to be captioned for the impaired.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:18 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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Well, he/she seems to have an affinity for such things. So...
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:18 PM by Ox
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Dog is a meat source in asian countries... But uhh... that grunt in the video was asian..
And I wasn't insulting you personally.. However, I was pointing out that if the users posting on this thread believe that video is a fake because
"someone just wouldn't do that" then they are rather ignorant... Just so you know..
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:19 PM by jerico65
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I've read about this on another forum I post to. And I think it's somewhere else on ATS.
I know a lot of Marines (this isn't a Soldier but a Marine, there's a difference, I'm told) that would like to kick this guys ass, simply because
of the rage it's starting in people and because if it were a real pup, that's just plain wrong.
And I'm glad to see that everyone here on ATS is keeping things simple and sane and not heaping all military members in with this loser.
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:20 PM by Ox
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Jericho.. It's ok.. Im an animal lover... and an experience snake handler... Actually.. I just had a playful wrestling bout with a 400lbs male white
tiger over the weekend..
I'm not here to insult.. Just here to argue that.. I PERSONALLY dont believe that it's a fake... I think the heartless grunt in the film should be
thrown from a cliff...
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:23 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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If it is a real dog, which I doubt, I hope the guy gets court martialed. Honestly, I don't think it's real though..
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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 03:24 PM by Badge01
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OK, fess up. Tell me you've never abused an animal, shot a frog, or flushed a turtle, or burned ants with a magnifying glass.
Should we do the same to you.
Abusing an animal is bad, but calling for killing a human is worse.
Here in reality land they fine people for animal abuse, they don't kill them.
Wonder why they didn't use a cat? Many people hate cats. But -everyone- loves a puppy. In fact a cat would -certainly- gyrate even more than a dog,
making the effect look completely fake.
To get maximal effect, they -had- to use a puppy and a stuffed dog.
HTH.
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