LMAO. Obama associates himself with Lincoln? Ughhhhhh. In what ways. He studies Lincoln and reads his writings, that's the only thing he has mentioned about Lincoln.

Obama studies a lot and reads a lot. It's how he has gone from a Community Organizer to the President of the United States of America.

One thing everybody that goes against the guy misses is that Obama is willing to do whatever it takes to win.

He loves to win and he wins a lot.

His wife is an indication of Obama's natural instinct to win, he marries a beautiful, smart woman with class. Chalk that up as a win for Barry.

Obama is studying more than just Lincoln just relax with the John Titor threads, the guy is a joke.

From Jake Fenton
See this ATS thread about another guy who claimed to be a time traveler.It's called My name is brandon and i am form the year 1961 or something like that?

Now I didn't read through all the John Titor stuff but this is the theory I am going to lay on you based upon the philosophy and ideas based upon time travel.

If John Titor was true, then there are time paradoxes he created just by coming back in time and being here. It is the theory that if you go back in time and shoot your father you would die instantly, or just cease to exist. But what if you just went back and made little changes, such as get a computer part to fix something in the future. Maybe someone who owned it starts to wonder why someone would but this obsolete part now and goes back and looks at it and low-and-behold it can solve the Y2K issue.

Then that changes the whole chain of events in the future from that point. Y2K is averted all over the world. Maybe that avoids some worlds tension and civil tension are also avoided because people aren't in the dark and you don't have a great chasm of the haves and the have-nots. Now the world time line that the traveler is from is irrevocably changed.

The other theory is that when you travel through time is that you don't go back to your own time line, but to the time line of an alternate timeline. Now that would explain events not matching up, or not happening, or other things happening in their place. Such as 9/11.

Some proponents of Titor say the reason he doesn't mention it is because it isn't important to them in there time. I say nay. 9/11 is the level of event of a Pearl Harbor. He would have known the date, time, who did it and why it was done. Even I know that December 7th, 1941 is when Pearl Harbor and I was born almost 40 years later. So I say that 9/11 didn't happen at all in Titor's timeline or else he would have reference it more that some president comparing himself to Abe Lincoln.

I can't say for 100% certainty that John Titor was real or not due to the theories that I laid out that could account for his predictions not happening. I think it would have been better if Titor would have said nothing than to jeopardize the timeline by giving these events of the future. Even if it was with the best intentions that we he did what he did, because the future is never set in stone it is fluid. It is ever changing by the acts that we do today.

If he were still alive Honest Abe would kick the cr@p out of that pencil-neck geek B. Hussein Obama.

Besides, for those of you with a public school education, Lincoln was the "O.R.".
That's right, the "Original Republican". The first member of the GOP to be elected President of the United States. That's about as far opposite as you can get to a left-wing Marxist like Obama.

Obama and Lincoln? There's just no comparison. A better comparison would be Obama and Mugabe.

None of us knew Abe

Stop acting like you did.

We don't know that guy, never did, never will.

What I do care about....

Is will....what coin are they going to invent to put Obama on? Amero?

So, if the timelines can diverge a certain percentage and he goes back in time to get this computer he needed....what if when he gets back, they don't need the computer anymore? He can't guarantee that he would get back on his exact timeline, so the guys he's leaving there (waiting for him to return with the computer) will never see him again because he's going to land on another timeline when he comes back. So, what's the point of going back in time to get something if you come back to some other timeline. This is enough for me not to believe him, unless someone can make logical sense of it. I don't think there has been one 100% proof of anything he has said. Sure I could predict something semi-vague, that could be twisted enough to be made true. If you take the last twenty years and study it enough and put enough thought into it, you can deduce alot of what's going to happen in the future. Not exact stuff, but basic things. You can predict the US economy will begin to rebound with some strength in 2010, even if it starts to rebound the end of 09, the big swing will begin in 2010, towards the end of it. You can predict there will be an unsuccessful attempt on Obama's life, just like with Reagan. The middle east will be in even more turmoil after 2010 because of various powers that are strengthening and want to control that part of the earth. I mean, I could go on and on, you can twist enough of what I say to make it sound right, no matter what is going on. Then, if I'm wrong, blame it on divergence. Let's say the economy doesn't rebound strong till 2011, well, it's the divergence. Bam, easy enough. Titor made some lame excuses not to be more precise. Why would he let us go into a civil war? Instead he should divulge everything he knew/knows to help us avoid all the death, pain and struggling. He was just a person who knew how to put two and two together, not a time traveler.

A.

I thought the John Titor story was quite entertaining to say the least. I loved how the evil federal government was the bad guy and the patriots were the good guys. I like to think We are all patriots but then again the feds are still evil bastards that steal our money and freedoms. I think its especially nice hearing about the people getting fed up and revolting but once again it won't happen. The federal government will just keep getting more powerful and of coarse we will loose more freedoms ...... But hey keep your chin up I keep hearing that I live in a free country so it must be true huh?

I keep hearing that Obama and Lincoln think completely different. Lets compare: Both believe in a strong federal government and do/did everything they could to abuse their power. It is obvious what Obama is doing, we live in these times. Where in the constitution does it say a state cannot leave the union? It doesn't. They had every right to. to say that Lincoln was a conservative only demonstrates how ignorant you really are. Lincoln was the first example of a terrible president.