John Titor is right again. Barack Obama associates himself with Abraham Lincoln.

Could someone please help me find that post of reference of time traveler John Titor's predictions about the next president associating himself with Lincon?

If John Titor is accurate about the predictions, then civil war against are corrupt government is upon us.

Then.....N-Day.

N-Day is the future Nuclear War that kills about 3 billion people!

Some may say vote or die.

I say PREPARE or die. www.survivalring.org...

John Titor hinted that he purposely lied about the timing of his presdential/civil war prediction:

November 15, 2000 John Titor commment:

"It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005."

So, that 2004-2005 is really 2008-2009.

The book of reality unfolds before our very eyes...

Wow....I think I must have just gone back in time. I joined today and discovered that there are actually people here still talking about John Titor. How strange... It's as if I've traveled back to 2002, before we proved that the John Titor thing was a hoax.

Obliviousness to the obvious effects these boards.

2004-2005 is actually '08-'09?!? Who'd a thought it! I'm suprised that more people haven't tried selling all that 2012 crap like that.

On another note, it is really interesting to note how long a good hoax will go on for, I mean just look at all the stuff surrounding Bob Lazar and how thst keeps getting recycled every few months/years.

Yawn.

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Here's what was said from an old archived page from a defunct site. It is the only Lincoln reference I can recall.

"The President or "leader" in 2005 I believe tried desperately to be the next Lincoln and hold the country together but many of their policies drove a larger wedge into the Bill of Rights. The President in 2009 was interested only in keeping his/her power base."

Can I interest you in an IBM5100? Only Lincoln-esque I see being aped is from the current POTUSA. Says he's gonna "fix" the ME before he leaves...

Cheers,

Vic

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I challenge anybody to show me any information or theories that would satisfactorily back up your uninformed and misinformed hoax crap.

I've carefully checked out with an open mind the various hoax possibilities raising its ugly head amoung all the signs of the truth.

I can explain any of the hoax theories for those that can't figure out the truth even if it's been physically proven while being applied to reality as we speak.

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How about the fact that the civil war never happened?

I think would have noticed that one.

I believe it was a hoax...but just to play devils advocate....

Maybe in Titor's time frame they have figured out what year Jesus was killed

2008ad

Maybe we have the actual dates all wrong...

Theoretically it could be 2004ad now.

Like i said devils advocate...

many people already accept we have Jesus's birthday wrong...

Even if we found irrefutable proof of Jesus's birthday, we wouldn't go and change our year because of it. Aside from the astronomical complexity involved (especially with changing old records), we would have to overcome the objections of all the secularists and non-Christians to changing our calendar to better reflect the birth of Christ.

Anyway, it's already well-established that we don't have Christ's birthday right. The fact that we got the year wrong is also pretty much understood.

I know you were just playing Devil's advocate, but I think you're way off. I also think the whole John Titor thing was a hoax. No offense to those reading this, but if I were a time traveler from his lifetime, the last thing you would find me doing is posting crap on the internet. I'd be out partying and committing acts that I wouldn't be around to be charged for!!!

In November 15, 2000, John Titor said;
"It is a mistake to give anyone your unwavering belief...but you will find that out yourself in 2005."

My translation: It's a mistake to believe me(John Titor) completely because I'm purposely lieing to you in some ways.......but you will find out that yourself in 2005 because my predictions (for this election time period) will not occur. (but maybe for the 2008-2009 election time period)

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Do you have any decent evidence for John Titor being real? I've read through everything I can find on the guy online, and there are bigger holes in his story than a thing with an obscenely large number of holes.

You're getting all Nostradamus-like with your "oh I'll just add a couple of years here, change the meaning of this word here, ignore that bit" nonsense. You're shoe-horning his story into your perception of reality because you want what he said to be the truth. You have a massive conflict of interest.

The fact Titor says don't trust anyone blindly, then you go and trust him blindly, should make you question your current tactic. It's open to perversion by anyone with a story colourful enough to attract your attention.

In fairness, it's impossible to "prove" the John Titor thing was a hoax because his claims were predicated on a non-falsifiable premise: JT sais that the multiple universe theory was correct, and that when he travelled back in time, he actually travelled back in time to an alternative universe (thus avoiding time travel paradoxes) so anything he changed here in the past would affect the 'present' in his reality. His predictions might have been true for his reality, but our reality has turned out to be different, because it's not the same universe but a parallel one. So, there's no way of "proving" that JT was a hoax and not actually a time-traveller from another universe.

Although, to be sure, I really believe it was a hoax. But there's no way to "prove" that.

DAVE240

"It's open to perversion by anyone with a story colourful enough to attract your attention. "

Wow you just managed to sum up the Bible & Koran and all other books of religion in 1 hit...........Well done my friend I have been looking for a sentence like that for years.............

Are they real .............of course they are.........!

Thanks Dave --------- Apologies for the off topic....................

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If you listen to Obama's great speech today you can hear tones
and themes of the Gettysburg address!

Obama may be the re-incarnation of Lincoln.
You can tell he is certainly influenced by Lincoln.

Given his eloquence-I predict he will someday write
the Gettysburg Address of the 21st century.

I don't believe that I was trying to make his predictions true. I saw that he gave hints to what he was really saying. He had motives to not tell alot about details in future events. It makes sense to lie about the timing of certain events in order to filter out people from taking him seriously. In thus doing, it will not alter the event too much. He himself even stated that what he remembers about this time is that different sports teams won and news events happened at different times. Enough said....

Doesn't every president and politician, at one time or another, evoke Abraham Lincoln or George Washington?

Next you will be tellling us John Titor was accurate because he predicted the next president of the USA will promise economic properity.

V Kaminski already posted what Titor actually stated.

According to Titor...Bush would be the president like Lincoln and Obama (if he wins) would be the one to drive a larger wedge in the Bill of Rights.


So in yet another prediction Titor was/is wrong. He's 0 for (whatever) so far and people still clinging to his words? Why?

John Titor is the real deal. No more Olympics. Obama as president.

1. We've had Olympics since 2004

2. What does Obama being president have to do with anything??