Battle Rifle or Assault Rifle? What do you bring with you?, page 2
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 08:58 AM by Tinhatman
reply to post by kdeery



This is the survival thread. It's a good idea to be better armed than your oppenents and be able to get them long before they get you.

With your choice of weapons I would feel horribley underarmed in any situation.

Example.

Gang of looters is on your street going house to house. You know they are coming and there are 6 of them. Your shotgun may scare them but until they get up close you are not going to do much damage. You fir a few rounds with your 9mm as they get into your yard, say 20 yards or so. You may hit a few but by this point they will be firing back in a big way.
If you had an SKS you could have taken them all comfortable while they were across the street at your neighbors house some 30-50 yards away.
Or when they were still 3 or 4 houses down (my hood has big yeards)

OR. A gang of looters/rioters etc are heading down the street and there are a whole bunch of them. If you had a battle rifle or some other long gun you could put a couple of big rounds into the crowd and while they scatter or panic or fire ineffectually at you with THEIR 9mm or shotguns you make your escape.

OR. Your on the move and someone has set up a road block, with a proper long gun you can clear the road long before they clear you.

In everyday life you will probably never need to pull a gun. In Sit-X the brandishing of a firearm may be necessary. I've seen shotguns on peoples shoulders after a hurricane when order was never lost. in a deep pile of Sit-x your chances of having to shoot at someone may invrease exponentially. I would hate to not make it because I thought a 9mm would be enough.

I hope I never nned to shoot at someone wearing body armor. That would mean the you would probably need a shovel to find the fan.

I would at least consider upgrading to a pistol caliber carbine. Most are not much heavier than a big pistol and it will increase your effective range out 70 yards or so, depending on you and the weapon. I have a Hi-Point 995 that becomes hit or miss at about 85 yards using the iron sights.


reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 09:30 AM by Tinhatman
reply to post by Tenebrous



A lot of suburban areas have a greater distance to deal with. True cities or heavily urbanized areas can not go wrong with a pistol cal. carbine.

One of the nice things about the SKS is that you can carry 200 rds. in a chest rig and it is really not that heavy.


reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 10:23 AM by Tinhatman
reply to post by Tenebrous



Better not to have to move IMHO. Stay hunkered with supplies. But they say "the best laid plans of mice and men".

Shooting people is not what any of us want to look forward to.

This is just a discussion of possibilites and may help others in determining their choices. We are survivalists becuase we prepare to survive in all sorts of scenarios. I have done the big storms and even a few massive wildfires. Been cut off etc etc. This is just one of many possibilites. Martial capabalities definiiely fall into the survival category and their are lot's of members I am sure that have not given it much thought. Hope this thread helps.



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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 11:37 AM by LLoyd45
reply to post by reluctantpawn

You're probably right about the body armor. If they do have it, it will most likely be scavenged. Most looters will rely on numbers to overwhelm you rather than high tech equipment, planning, or sound strategy. In that case you'd be best to hoof it out of there as quickly as possible till things setlle down a bit.


reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 11:46 AM by Tinhatman
reply to post by wills120



I would skip anything in .223 See Cavscout's earlier post.

The AR-10 is supposed to be a great weapon from everything I have heard. Having never fired one though it is just hearsay. My only issue is that $1500 dollar price tag.

Though you can buy some really neat bits and parts for an M-4 and most soldiers surveyed like the weapon


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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 04:39 PM by Illahee
Here ya go.

www.simonov.net...


I'm one of those goobs that still has the same box of shells from 12 years ago. 6 to site in after a bore site, 4 shells, 4 deer, and I still got 10 left. 30.06 though, so good ones ain't cheap. I make each one work.


reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 04:56 PM by Tinhatman
reply to post by Illahee





"a peace of pipe with a stock attached to it"

I love my Yugo SKS. It is by far my favorite gun other then the 1911 I carry always. With Iron sights I hold my own against any modern rifle within 150 yards. I won't win any mathes or anything but meh..

I think most of us here when we say assault rifle we mean anything with a cut down round like the 7.62x39 or the Nato 5.56x41. The SKS is truly not an assault rifle, but for this thread and the use we would put it through we keep it there.

Great link!

Oh, and if you go buy an SKS you can go through a whole box of ammo and still get lunch. You can stop signing that equity loan to go buy some .30-06 now.
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