Originally posted by Tamahu

That's one little gripe I have with the way that many Rosicrucians, Theosophists and Masons in general, present Kemetic knowledge. They Hellenize the sh*t out of things.

Ummmm... you have that gripe with just us, eh? It's not that the whole of Western Society (that well known evil organisation) has been doing that for about 2000 years, eh?

Seriously, though... most people pick a language or a group of languages in which to express themselves and stick to it. Since Greek and Latin were academic languages, those are the ones used to express academic ideas. What's so wrong with that? I hardly think it's an insult to the Ancient Egyptians to call them Ancient Egyptians (if there are any around, which there aren't), any more than it is an insult to the Japanese to call them Japanese rather than nihonjin.

Originally posted by Tamahu
You're thinking of Iesous/Isis; and yes they sound somewhat similiar and are both Greek words; but Khonsu is correct.

That's one little gripe I have with the way that many Rosicrucians, Theosophists and Masons in general, present Kemetic knowledge. They Hellenize the sh*t out of things.

Why say "Hermes" or "Thoth"? People should recognize Tehuti instead.

Why say "Egypt" instead of Kemet?

It's 'Ausar', not "Osiris".

Yes, I do agree with you on the point of people not using the original and correct names however I don't think its simply a Rosicrucian, Theosophist, or Masonic issue, it's western civilization as a whole. Most people scholars and novices alike refer to the gods of Kemet and Kemet itself by their Greek conversions. Of course there are your exceptions and these are found within general society as well as within secret societies. In short like most things it comes down to what one has read, studied and ultimately the decision one makes in regards to the names one will use.

Alex has apparently been reading my mind and beat me to the punch.

Great minds think alike eh Alex?

Originally posted by Tamahu
Well the difference between the 85%(the masses) and the said groups, is that the latter ought to know better.
[Edited on 20-5-2004 by Tamahu]

I hear you, but keep in mind many of the 5% should know better as well, and still use the Greek terms. Additionally my experience is that many of the 10% as well as many of the masses do know the real names, they simply resort to using the Greek ones either out of habit or because they are more easily recognized and therefore its easier to convey thoughts and ideas especially in the world of Academia.

Hotep

Aeth, who does that refer to? Does anyone know?

Originally posted by Khonsu
Jesus's name wasnt "Jesus" thats not hebrew, its Yashua.

Neither is "Yeshu'a." Yeshu'a is Aramaic, spoken in the region durring that period. Jesus is the Greek form of Yeshu'a and Yeshu'a is the Aramaic form of the Hebrew "Yehoshu'a." Which is plain to see Yehoshu'a is Hebrew for Joshua. So we all have it wrong.

If it was translated today we would call HIM Joshua.

[edit on 28-3-2008 by lazy1981]

Anyone ever heard of the all mighty Micha family!

I believe it was Vagabond who earlier concluded the entire matter: the sons of Cain were wiped out during the flood. Only the sons of Seth survived. There are no sons of Cain bloodlines.

And for arguments sake-what difference would it make if there were? What is the point of a particular blood line? Honestly? After all these thousands of years any unusual DNA would be so diluted as to be unrecognizable from the teeming masses.

Also, since sons are seldom like their fathers in character, beliefs, values, etc., having a descendent bloodline is pretty useless for ruling the world (if that's the point of the bloodline argument).

No doubt there are "evil" people managing the policies tending toward global domination. That's enough of a conspiracy without giving it a theme of satanic bloodlines. I don't think you have to be of any particular bloodline to do evil. We are all descended from one fallen man (Adam) and even those who claim to be from the second man Adam (Jesus) still have to deal with their fallen nature. There is none righteous, no, not one.