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Can there be an Iron man in reality?


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Topic started on 3-3-2008 @ 11:48 AM by deltaboy







A near indestructable armor over exoskeleton frame that gives speed and strength as well as ability to fly. As well as enough weaponry to take on tanks by him or herself.

We have known for awhile that the military has been investing in these technologies. Exoskeletons, jet packs, advance armor, etc.

Is it realistic? Maybe not?

Probably the cost, as well as technical nightmare to produce such a suit.



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 04:26 PM by Hypntick


I do know there was some discussion on this in another thread.

Robotic Exoskeleton Thread

I know it seems rather crude by comparison to Iron Man, but at least they're working on it. I think the main problem would be the power supply. Personally I would rather envision Giant robots ala Star Wars or Robotech. Seems to me the bigger it is, the more space for a type of power supply.



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 05:07 PM by rat256


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well, given that we made a spacesuit to completely protect a human from the ravages of space, its not too much of a leap to at least an armoured exo suit even if its not robotic...



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 05:37 PM by ShatteredSkies


An Ironman?

The simple answer I guess would be no.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 05:43 PM by marg6043


The government is always looking into new technology to prepare its military for the future, is no doubt in my mind that is more to the Iron man that meet the eyes.

Usually the science fiction of today becomes the reality of tomorrow.

Its just a matter of time.



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 06:09 PM by ShatteredSkies


Well looking at the suit itself and what appears to be incorporated into it; the level of technology required to make it a reality I'm sorry to say, is far beyond our current capacity.

But who knows, maybe in the next 100 years they would have developed a power source small enough and efficient enough to make it a reality, and then at that point, the skies' the limit.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 07:18 PM by bodrul


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this would be so cool to take down the local pub
or just for a random flight around the city

i need to watch the film



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 07:22 PM by Incarnated


Yes I'm looking foward to seeing this movie. I've always loved the IRONMAN charactor.

However maybe the theory is there but the technology isn't. Ironman would have to wait thousands of years at least to be real, and by that time mankind will be evolved enough not to require Ironman.

Just go buy the watch and wait for the movie.



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 07:30 PM by ShatteredSkies


Thousand's of years? It took 100 to go from steam to well what ever the heck we have now.

I don't think it'll take thousands to achieve Ironman.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 10:16 PM by darktone


even with s super hard exoskeleton i don't think a human body could withstand a direct hit from a rpg.



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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 11:21 PM by secret titan


I think it's plausible to be able to have this sort of technoology at some point. Perhaps in time we will find out, maybe not in our lifetime, but our children.



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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 01:15 AM by wrathchild


Recuiting un-employed low income 18yrs olds is a lot cheaper. Barely more than minimum wage to duck bullets. Besides there's an endless supply



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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 09:20 AM by deltaboy


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Yeah I would say it would take about 100 years for this technology to mature. After all we are at a fast pace in technology. In the 1860s during American civil war with were using those old rifles and cannons while pulling them with horses. In the 1960s we have nuclear weapons, faster than sound fighter jets, tanks, etc.

My mistake, American Civil War, not revolution.


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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 05:10 PM by sickleye


Given the advances in computer technology, I believe that we would move to remotely controlled robots. For the simple reason that a human inside one of those would be pulped even if the suit could withstand massive damage.

Already we are seeing unmanned aircraft, and there can be no doubt that unmanned fighter aircraft are in the works. As things now stand, air technology is already beyond the limits of human endurance. A pilot can literally kill himself trying to use the full potential of his machine.

So we would probably move to unmanned ground troops in the next 60 years or so.


I for one, welcome our new robot overlords.



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reply posted on 4-3-2008 @ 11:37 PM by raptor1


definitely possible in the next 100 years. advances in nano-technology would create a plausible way to create an incredibly strong power source in a small size. i do agree that there'd have to be some significant way to protect the human body from being hit by an RPG. i do love the idea though, ironman and batman have always been my favorite super hero's because they don't have above human abilities, they're just really smart people who develop some amazing technology.

raptor1



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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 06:58 AM by ignorant_ape


the problem is - what ever tech your ` iron man suit ` uses - can be used by others - unless you engage in special pleading

i have not seen the movie - and it is many many years since i bought the comic books

but if for the sake of illustration :

[protection]

if your ironmen is protected by 20mm of " unpenetrateium composite "

then a MBT can be fitted with 150mm of the same stuff

[power]

the new super power source that poweres ironman - and produces vast power from a 2 litre volume powerpak wighing only a few kg - can be scaled up - or fitted in banks in a tank chassis to provide 200 times the power

[weapons]

if iron man has lasers that fit in the palm of his hand and can cut battlehip plate in half

a tank can mount a laser weighing 3 tons - that will shoot through the entire fleet with one discharge

simply put - the ` invincibility ` of such concepts relies whoelly on the special pleading that they and they aloone have technology of a magnitude above and beyond the enemy



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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 08:15 AM by manson_322



Originally posted by ignorant_ape
the problem is - what ever tech your ` iron man suit ` uses - can be used by others - unless you engage in special pleading

i have not seen the movie - and it is many many years since i bought the comic books

but if for the sake of illustration :

[protection]

if your ironmen is protected by 20mm of " unpenetrateium composite "

then a MBT can be fitted with 150mm of the same stuff

[power]

the new super power source that poweres ironman - and produces vast power from a 2 litre volume powerpak wighing only a few kg - can be scaled up - or fitted in banks in a tank chassis to provide 200 times the power

[weapons]

if iron man has lasers that fit in the palm of his hand and can cut battlehip plate in half

a tank can mount a laser weighing 3 tons - that will shoot through the entire fleet with one discharge

simply put - the ` invincibility ` of such concepts relies whoelly on the special pleading that they and they aloone have technology of a magnitude above and beyond the enemy





a tank can mount a laser weighing 3 tons - that will shoot through the entire fleet with one discharge



not that easy , the power source would have to be extremely powerful fusion source ...

anyways there had some reports of soviet tanks having used experimental lasers to vaporise an entire chinese tank and infantry regiment in 1969 sino-soviet war ...

theres a czech source with relation to this incident
www.military.cz...

and it has been documented on warfare.ru forum


Not sure if this is true, My dad used to tell me about Russians back in the 1970s(Possibly late 60s?) using MBT Tanks mounted with Lasers to fight off Chinese ground forces invading the border.

I asked him again and he found out an article on the web claiming a Soviet Tank/APC? towing a massive 'cable' across the battlefield and mentioned somthing to do with vapourising a mass number of troops and vehicles, remains of uniforms etc were then found.

To me, It sounds like a Sonic/Heat/Tesla weapon but still not sure.
forum.warfare.ru...



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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 09:07 AM by Badge01


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Though the materials might be able to be reverse engineered by the 'opponent', what is really important are the production methods.

When Col. Zoltan Dani, the Serbian commander of an anti-aircraft missile battery during the 78-day NATO campaign over Serbia, downed the first F-117, they were able to see the material, but learning how to build the plane was still not obvious.

(Benefit of watching 'Modern Marvels' on the History channel - the way they make stuff is just remarkable.)

2 cents.

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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 09:20 AM by OzWeatherman


I think if you are going to use a suit like this, you would have trouble being mobile in it due to the weight of the armour. A lightweight material that is strong is a must. At the moment I cant think of anything that would be suitable for such a project



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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 10:43 AM by Badge01


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Lightweight is key. One of the prototypes, built by the Grizzly Man, Troy Hurtubise, isn't bad. The full suit with all the options is only 50lbs:




YouTube Link


One of his Grizzly suits worked ok in testing but when he took it out on the tundra with just lightly rolling landscape, he couldn't move and had to take the suit off.


Google Video Link


Great guy. Love his story.




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