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reply posted on 15-3-2008 @ 04:46 PM by chupacabraboy
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ok........lets say i wanted to join....how would that work? i am under age and live in so cal i m trying to prepare myself solo but help wouldnt go
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 05:52 PM by residentantihero
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Greetings once again.
After spending more time discussing the topics at hand in an effort to further respond, Resident Anti-Hero would like to issue this as an official
response, whereas the last response was issued by me (one member of the duo) immediately upon reading the thread:
Our most recent tour has generated a great deal of questions and discourse, which we as artists feel compelled to speak on. Resident Anti-Hero
is dedicated to communication, and it is in the interest of such communication that we now seek to define certain understandings of our music group;
it’s origins, and intentions.
There seems to be debate as to how real The Anti-Hero Underground is. How militant the group chooses to be. How extreme its members are, and
more importantly, the group’s use of music as a tool for both monetary and promotional gain.
Firstly, The Anti-Hero Underground is real, however it is more of a conceptual think tank/skill trade network, than that of a traditional
organization. The skills and thoughts shared and traded throughout the group and its self-proclaimed members are all based around aspects of
survivalism. Survivalism is a commonly used (and often mis-used) term for the preparedness strategy and subculture of individuals/groups anticipating
and making preparations for future possible disruptions in local, regional or worldwide social/political orders. Survivalists often prepare for this
anticipated disruption by learning skills such as: emergency medical training, farming/biodynamic farming, permaculture, martial arts/self defense,
primitive structure building, alternative energy production, and overall wilderness survival tactics (e.g. hunting/fishing/fire craft). Survivalism,
in and of itself is general self-sufficiency. Survivalists strive to at any point in time, under any circumstance, be adequately prepared. Resident
Anti-Hero and The Anti-Hero Underground stand firmly behind this mantra: Be Prepared At All Times, At All Costs. It is the belief of we artists and
the movement we represent, that one must be militant in the pursuit of survivalist theory and practice.
Militancy is a term that usually conjures images of camouflaged fatigues, assault rifles, and violent uprising. The root of the word, i.e.
militant is as follows:
Militant
–adjective
1. vigorously active and aggressive, esp. in support of a cause: militant reformers.
2. engaged in warfare; fighting.
–noun
3. a militant person.
4. a person engaged in warfare or combat.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME < L mīlitant- (s. of mīlitāns), prp. of mīlitāre to serve as a soldier. ]
The Anti-Hero Underground has often times been described as a network of “militant survivalists.” However it is the opinion of Resident
Anti-Hero, that if this word should be used to describe our causes and the cause of The Anti-Hero Underground, that it be redefined. Militancy by our
terms DOES NOT INVOLVE REVOLUTIONARY BLOODSHED. IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THE USE OF CRIMINAL OR POLITICALLY MOTIVATED VIOLENCE AS A SOLUTION TO THE
PROBLEMS AT HAND. The Anti-Hero Underground DOES NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE violent direct action against people for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. Such actions
in these times amount to nothing more than severe loss. This being said, we do not sponsor or promote pacifism.
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 05:52 PM by residentantihero
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continued...
Pacifism is akin to apathy, and it is this that we are militantly opposed to. Consider the word militant, when attached to the nomenclature of
survivalist, as an antonym for the word apathy. We live in a culture of consumerism, spectacle and vice. Oppressive forces subversively perpetrate
apathy and ignorance upon us, through the use of powerful paradigms. These forces (unaccountable private tyrannies with extensive access to media
sources) wield carefully constructed distractions of pleasure, designed to (directly or at times, indirectly) pacify the general populace. Although
there is nothing wrong with entertainment, theatre or the carnivalesque, there is something wrong with a culture of
entertainment/theatre/carnivalesque so all-consuming that it detracts from urgent global catastrophe. This is what has happened. The populace is and
has been transformed into a generation of passionless cowards- apathetic and passive. More disturbing than the transformation itself is the effect
that it has upon the environment: politically, socially, and ecologically.
Resident Anti-Hero is the artistic vanguard of The Anti-Hero Underground. What this means, is that the group, utilizes artistic license and
creativity to construct an alternative mythos that involves survivalism, resistance, and self-sustainability. When using the word resistance, we are
not speaking of armed resistance, as mentioned earlier, armed resistance is futile in the face of the powers that be. One can only account for
themselves, and their community. This is as things were before the rise of empirical civilization, when small communities and villages looked after
their own well-being. Through music, Resident Anti-Hero attempts to raise awareness by remaining (somewhat) on the grid and in the underground music
community. This means, that we (like all other independent music groups) are subject to the compromises and exploitation of the overall capitalist
industry that governs us. We hustle to get the word out. We scrape together minimal funds to produce albums. We travel the west coast on low budget
tours in efforts to further the cause. We use the Internet, Myspace, and other tools of the larger oppressive system in a Machiavellian (see Niccolo
Machiavelli, The Prince) ends justify the means attempt to reach as many people as possible. Shall the master’s tools dismantle the master’s
house? We shall see…perhaps they can convince the master’s slaves to pick up and run away from the plantation at whatever cost. We are using the
medium of Hip Hop as it was originally intended to be used- as a mouthpiece for social struggle and societal discontent. We remain active in our
communities, teaching workshops in prisons, juvenile halls, and shelters for disenfranchised youth, fundraising for charities, and, of course,
participating in survivalist skill trades. We do not stand outside or against other important political causes or campaigns, we believe, support, and
maintain contact with a number of organization who represent people of color, women’s rights, gay rights, etc. We offer our voices and opinions in
hopes that listeners will comprehend the overall damage that the entire first world industrialized complex is inflicting upon every living organism.
We do this through music, the universal language of sound.
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 05:53 PM by residentantihero
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continued...
Our music is a tool for monetary and promotional gain, however our monetary and promotional gains are tools for our music. The underlying sentiment
is no different than the sentiments of The Anti-Hero Underground- we survive and resist as best we can. Artistically we utilize the metaphors of war,
machines, and machine culture to strengthen our mythological narrative. Myth is akin to storytelling which is rooted in oral storytelling i.e.
bardic/griot tradition. Oral storytelling is the fundamental root of most lyricism and all Hip Hop. If we were to return to a neo-primitive state,
without media, hard documentation, or even base level means of communication, word of mouth and oral storytelling would be all that sustained
information. It is for this reason that we, as Resident Anti-Hero, have chosen to develop a new mythology; offering it in the face of and as an
alternative to the dominant social paradigm which (in our opinions) distorts values and contributes to the overall destruction of the earth. It is
our intention to express and bring light to different ways of living life. Meaning that, you don’t have to aspire towards taking some #-eating job
and working at a desk and living in some Lego cookie-cutter house with your SUV and HDTV etc. You don’t have to allow yourself to live beneath the
rule of credit. You do not have to actively contribute to the dominant first world culture that sacrifices the long-term sustainability of the earth
for temporary comfort in excess.
Food comes from the earth…not from the grocery store. It is realities such as this that we would like to further promote. We are not
militants, running into the streets to arm children and detonate explosives. We are not wacked out loner Unabomber types either. We are not telling
you to physically go out and destroy machines in the literal sense. We are artists, creating a mythology through sign and symbol in hopes that our
message can be received and retold amongst others.
If you are interested in learning more about Resident Anti-Hero, or The Anti-Hero Underground’s skill trade programs, please send word to
residentantihero@spacegnomerecords.com, our staff of anti-heroes will do their best to respond timely.
Thank you,
Resident-Antihero
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 06:00 PM by residentantihero
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And to those who have requested interest in information regarding participating in the Anti-Hero Underground, the best way to do so is to email us a
physical mailing address (preferably a p.o. box or an untraceable mailbox) so we can mail you some information packets.
residentantihero@spacegnomerecords.com
It will take some time for you to receive the information packets as we are currently neck deep in a project that will be demanding our time
throughout the month of march. first week of April we will mail out packets to those who have chosen to email addresses. This is the easiest way for
us to safely send untraceable information to you in regards to participating in our network.
And to those who question whether or not its 'safe' to join our email list. I suppose that depends on your definition of 'safe'. We send out one
email every couple months or so to the list with information on current articles, books, events that we find interesting, as well as information
regarding Resident Anti-Hero events, projects, releases. We are very careful and considerate not to abuse the mailing list, and you can always have
yourself removed. Whether or not being a part of our mailing list would get you in some sort of legal or political trouble, that seems pretty
unlikely to us, but in a culture such as this, we are careful not to make promises.
Stay Up and Fight Hard.
Anti-Hero
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reply posted on 17-3-2008 @ 07:06 PM by an3rkist
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I have to say I was extremely impressed by your above replies. Everything you said was parallel to my own beliefs. I don't know about joining a
mailing list, but could you tell me what being a part of the Anti-Hero Underground means? Would I have access to classes or resources which would
help me get off the grid? I'm currently working on becoming completely self-sufficient, and finding it more complicated and expensive than I had
originally thought, so I could definitely use a network of like-minded individuals who might be able to help me. I live in upstate NY though, so I'm
not sure if you're franchised out here. (Not sure if franchised is the right word, but you know what I mean.)
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reply posted on 18-3-2008 @ 10:57 AM by angryamerican
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Originally posted by residentantihero
Firstly, The Anti-Hero Underground is real, however it is more of a conceptual think tank/skill trade network, than that of a traditional
organization. 
So in other words you are not in fact a real organization just people with common interest. in the real world we have a name for that its called
friends.
 The skills and thoughts shared and traded throughout the group and its self-proclaimed members are all based around aspects of survivalism.
Survivalism is a commonly used (and often mis-used) term for the preparedness strategy and subculture of individuals/groups anticipating and making
preparations for future possible disruptions in local, regional or worldwide social/political orders. Survivalists often prepare for this anticipated
disruption by learning skills such as: emergency medical training, farming/biodynamic farming, permaculture, martial arts/self defense, primitive
structure building, alternative energy production, and overall wilderness survival tactics (e.g. hunting/fishing/fire craft). Survivalism, in and of
itself is general self-sufficiency. Survivalists strive to at any point in time, under any circumstance, be adequately prepared. Resident Anti-Hero
and The Anti-Hero Underground stand firmly behind this mantra: Be Prepared At All Times, At All Costs. It is the belief of we artists and the
movement we represent, that one must be militant in the pursuit of survivalist theory and practice. 
That is a very well put explanation of survival and preparedness codos for that. how ever the last sentence is as you well know what I have issue
with.
 Militancy is a term that usually conjures images of camouflaged fatigues, assault rifles, and violent uprising. The root of the word,
i.e. militant is as follows:
Militant
–adjective
1. vigorously active and aggressive, esp. in support of a cause: militant reformers.
2. engaged in warfare; fighting.
–noun
3. a militant person.
4. a person engaged in warfare or combat.
[Origin: 1375–1425; late ME < L mīlitant- (s. of mīlitāns), prp. of mīlitāre to serve as a soldier. ] 
Militant is also known as a terrorist/freedom fighter.
 The Anti-Hero Underground has often times been described as a network of “militant survivalists.” However it is the opinion of
Resident Anti-Hero, that if this word should be used to describe our causes and the cause of The Anti-Hero Underground, that it be redefined.
Militancy by our terms DOES NOT INVOLVE REVOLUTIONARY BLOODSHED. IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THE USE OF CRIMINAL OR POLITICALLY MOTIVATED VIOLENCE AS A
SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS AT HAND. The Anti-Hero Underground DOES NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE violent direct action against people for ANY REASON
WHATSOEVER. Such actions in these times amount to nothing more than severe loss. This being said, we do not sponsor or promote pacifism.

So let me get this strait. you want to redefine a word to explain you and your friends. You don't find that Odd? I have fought for years to get
peoples opinions of survivalist away from words like militant. We are not solders we do not go looking for a fight. your explanation above is
fantastic. show me in there ware it even resembles the word Militant. I'm sorry to inform you but the world is not going to redefine a word for
you.
People here that and they automatically go to Rambo, or revolutionary loners. You are in the business of communication how bout communicating the
real definitions. if you take out the guess work or any chance of misinterpretation then there will be none.
You say that survivalist are not pacifists. I agree pacifists set there and do nothing. survivalist are active we take our future into our hands and
activity work twords our goals. We do not go looking for a fight. looking for a fight is under no circumstance survival it is the opposite.
Sometimes going the opposite direction of trouble is the survivalist best course. it leads to life not death. you would have people believe that
going the opposite direction is a bad thing. which is just like saying living is a bad thing.
Steadfastly standing your ground and defending the day is a romantic notion that does not transfer into the real world. if your dead or imprisoned
how can you defend any thing. Were not talking cowerdis or government brainwashed zombies. its common sense. to put it simply Militant and survival
do not belong together. pacifist and survivalist do not belong together. if your little group really want to help try not redefining words to suit
your own scewed vision of the world.
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reply posted on 12-6-2008 @ 07:43 PM by Illahee
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I am familiar with the Elwha River basin.
To my knowledge there was never a big gun battle there. There are lots of park rangers on that side and a ton of fish and game cops that live in the
woods full time following the elk herds there and doing study oriented work. It should have been in the papers. What was the approx date?
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