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January 14, 2008 – Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others...
The ‘Patriot Act’ was actually written prior to 9/11 with the intention of destroying the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. It was passed by Congress, based upon the government's myth of 9/11, which was in reality a staged hoax. 9/11 was scripted and executed by rogue elements of the military, FAA, intelligence, and private contractors working for the US government. - Former U.S. Air Force pilot Lt. Jeff Dahlstrom
Regarding the failure of NORAD to intercept the four hijacked planes on 9/11, Col. Bowman said, “I'm an old interceptor pilot. I know the drill. I've done it. I know how long it takes. I know the rules. … Critics of the government story on 9/11 have said: ‘Well, they knew about this, and they did nothing’. That's not true. If our government had done nothing that day and let normal procedure be followed, those planes, wherever they were, would have been intercepted, the Twin Towers would still be standing and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive.” - Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret).
Originally posted by FRIGHTENER
reply to post by TrueAmerican
Excellent thread, TrueAmerican ! Your name serves you well. From the
beginning, I found it hard to believe that so many cameras just happened
to be pointing at the World Trade Center towers on 9/11/01...
Now all the controversy that has followed, made me on the fence, off, on-
I can tell you that most of my buddies in the services speak of two sides
within... You are RIGHT about "counter" soldiers. Go ahead and breathe
that particular sigh of relief, I have!
Originally posted by welivefortheson
i wonder what happened?,what happened to his mind to make him the way he is now?,is meglomanic evil a mental condition?,there seems to be a case for that,how else can we explain the littany of evil rulers through out history?,something must go wrong in thier minds.
“As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.” Capt. Daniel Davis, former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director.
“And also in all four planes, if you remember, none of the planes ever switched on their transponder to the hijack code. There's a very, very simple code that you put in if you suspect that your plane is being hijacked. It takes literally just a split-second for you to put your hand down on the center console and flip it over. And not one of the four planes ever transponded a hijack code, which is most, most unusual. ...” Commander Ted Muga, U.S. Navy (ret), is a Navy aviator.
“In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident,” wrote Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret), a former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority.
”The airplane could not have flown at those speeds which they said it did without going into what they call a high speed stall. The airplane won’t go that fast if you start pulling those high G maneuvers at those bank angles. … To expect this alleged airplane to run these maneuvers with a total amateur at the controls is simply ludicrous ... It’s roughly a 100 ton airplane. And an airplane that weighs 100 tons all assembled is still going to have 100 tons of disassembled trash and parts after it hits a building. There was no wreckage from a 757 at the Pentagon. … The vehicle that hit the Pentagon was not Flight 77. We think, as you may have heard before, it was a cruise missile.” Capt. Russ Wittenberg, U.S. Air Force, former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions, retired commercial pilot, who flew for Pan Am and United Airlines for 35 years.
“One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?” Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret), former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM),
Originally posted by magicmushroom
True, I posted a thread recently where I stated that the Patriot Act would become the new constitution, although there were many viewers unfortunately I dont think I got any replies.
Its quite obvious to anyone with a brain that the USA has been highjacked by a group of murdering despots and the problem is the worst is yet to come.
Originally posted by khunmoon
The Pentagon "crash" was such a hoax I never believed it.
I know the theory of holograms projected on to the towers. I never really believed that, but now I'm not sure.
If there were no physical planes involved, what about all those passengers who allegedly died in the crash. They had relatives mourning them, they can't really fake that. If they did all somehow disappear, where did they go? Some CIA black ops holes.
That's what I can't figure out, what did they do to the passengers?
Originally posted by Trance Optic
what got me an yes I may be hated for this but honestly How do people take over a plane of 50+ people with box cutters?