Do you eat meat?

If you are working out, you should be getting at least 0.8gms of protein/lb of body weight per day.

How you get that protein is up to you. It can certainly be from non-meat sources, soy, beans, corn, etcetera.

I have cut way back on red meat, pork and chicken and get most of my protein from fish and seafood. Red meat just has too much fat in it and after cutting back, it really makes me feel greasy unless it's a lean cut of steak.

That's one thing that's interesting about various dietary staples. You only realize the effect if you've been off it for a while.

I've also cut way back on dairy products (though I eat cheese). Normally I love milk - it's almost an addictive thing for me which is why I cut way back.

My pet theory is that foods to which you feel 'addicted', may actually have an underlying response in your body similar to an allergy. However, many people feel that 'food allergies' are a myth. Hard to say; I have no evidence for this one way or the other - just throwing it out there.

It may be that one puts out endorphins in response to something in a particular type of food group, and that causes the desire to over consume. This may be similar to why we have 'comfort foods' - the endorphin response gives the feeling of (temporary) comfort, perhaps.

2 cents.


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I eat some meat with almost every major meal (minor meals are usually a fruit or vege). Breakfast: usually eggs and/or turkey bacon. Lunch: deli meat. Dinner: chicken or steak. And I usually eat a can of tuna some time in the evening (mmm dolphin). I exercise almost daily so I need a constant flow of readily available protein. Soy just ain't gonna cut it.

We're the top of the food chain for a reason. Eating meat is what set us apart from the other apes as we came down from the trees. It allowed our bodies to focus less energy on digestion and more on brain development.

I think vegans and vegetarians suffer from some kind of mental disorder... which ultimately leads to physiological disorder as they become skin and bones and their brains rot. I get grass-fed, cage-free, etc. But as long as I live, if it moves, I'll probably eat it.

This was taken after a few months of veganism and after a fast/cleanse.



This was taken a few weeks ago. Over a year has elapsed.




It's cute when people make assumptions about veganism and have no idea what they're talking about. I'm always a fan of "unhealthy" claims or written off as just "skinny." I was a former fat kid and I'm not all that active. If eating properly, I've never had another diet outperform my vegan one. It may be different for other people, but I can't see myself ever going back to your average American diet. Ever.

Although I prefer to eat meat, I support those who prefer to eat Vegan. Afterall, it is a personal choice and should be encouraged as a viable alternative to eating meat for those who prefer not to.

reply to post by Roland Deschain

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I dont know how much meat is actually in McDonalds burgers, if its real at all!

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Good point. I think the consumption of any dietary element is partially based on habit and on things like texture.

If it tastes the same, delivers the essential nutrients and has a similar quality, such as 'mouth feel', then most meat eaters would be just as happy with tofu-burgers and similar items.

As I mentioned, when you give up red meat, it's only later that you perceive how greasy and unpalatable it might actually be. Without realizing it, you've re-trained your palate.



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So far it looks just like what I already know, most people eat meat, every day, 7 days a week, more than once a day. I commend those of you who have opted to purchase local meats, I am doing this myself because my husband will not give up meat, he won't watch or read any stories about meat, he knows it would sicken him, so he would rather be blind to it and keep on eating at McDonald's (Gross) every week, loves the dollar menu double cheese, but for myself I will never ever contribute to the mass production of beef or any other meat again. I do and always have eaten lots of fish, someone here was saying that after the flood is when we were given permission to eat meat, I also remember that Jesus fed the starving with fish and manna, I have always felt eating fish is ok. You all that like/love your meat, go ahead and enjoy your meat , but for myself I decline from knowing that the food in my belly was possibly sick last week, unable to even stand, or any of the other atrocities (in my opinion) that go along with mass production.

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So it's ok to eat fish!

Now I'm pretty sure this one has been done to death, but what the heck...

So what will you do when the fish stocks (which are already dangerously low) run out?

Does (in your opinion), fish include dolphins and whales because plenty of people like to eat them as well?

Do fish not suffer trauma whilst being hunted?

Meat is meat is meat. It is the flesh of an animal and in some cases vegetable too.

A vegetarian is someone who does not eat meat, and to me that includes fish. Maybe you should read or watch some fish farm vids as well. Find out about all the nasty growth agents and cancer causing chemicals they stick in the water with them.

And do you know why young guys in the navy are called skates?

MonKey

As much as I agree with your actual point, it strikes me as somewhat hypocritical of you to pontificate on this subject given your previous posts? People ascribe to varying degrees of ethics, but you aren't satisfied unless the overall standard is as low as yours?

I thought the whole point of this place was to pontificate? It's all about opinions is it not? I feel it's hypocritical of the op to go on about the treatment of one type of animal over another.

Yes I have low standards. That way everyday brings such wonderful surprises!

Ethics? Isn't that next to Sussex!

MonKey

It's ok... you're not alone. Not by a long shot.

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First of all I do not eat just any fish, and would never eat a dolphin. I eat local fish only. Always have. Fresh out of lakes fed by artisian waters. Fish are not milk giving, nurturing , warm blooded mammals. They are cold blooded invertabrates. Although schools of fish seem to be smart enough to 'stay in school' pardon the pun, it is believed by the scientific community they are merely responding to electronic activity, not thinking. It has also never been proven that a fish can even feel pain. If scraped on the head or face they will jump, but nothing indicates pain, just reaction to touch. Anyway, if Jesus fed the people with them I personally think it must be okay to eat them, to me that is like the official word.

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Just an fyi, they are vertebrates. They have a backbone...so stop calling those fish spineless, they are no cowards!

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And if Jesus said "Thou should stick thy head in an oven!"

Would you?

Honestly. The Jesus told me to do it argument, is borderline fruitcake. If we are all God's children then it's God's children that are causing the suffering of these animals, and God's children that are eating them.

I would have thought that Buddha would have been a bit more up your alley. Although they, Buddhists, don't eat fish.

MonKey

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Monkey I would respect your opinion, but it is too late. Why call someone borderline fruitcake for making a reference to the bible? Do you feel anyone who reads the bible is a fruitcake? What is your problem? Nevermind don't answer. Name calling should have ended for you like it does most of us around 3rd grade.

FYI, you don't know me, so don't assume I have an 'alley' that you would know anything about.

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My bad, you are absolutely correct, they are vertabrates, I was trying to recall something I learned so long ago! Not Cowards.

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So if a rapist, serial killer of children says.

"Jesus told me to do it" Then it's all fine and dandy.

It's about doing something because someone says it's ok as opposed to doing it for your own reasons - that always gets my goat - nothing to do with reading the bible. It's on a par with someone blowing themselves up in the name of god. Although that would be full fruitcake!



I've just added that because I think you may have some other meaning attached to that particular saying, semantics and all that.

I'm fully aware that I don't know you, as you, do not know me. hmmm Something about judging springs to mind.

MonKey

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are you kidding? fish dont feel pain?

of course they do. have you ever caught a fish by accidentally jagging its eye instead of biting the hook?
ever snagged a fish hook up the fish's chocolate starfish? (its butt hole)

im a terrible fisherman, and ive done all the above. i assure you they definately do feel pain.

do you know when they go dolphin hunting they catch a few and dangle them in the water by their tails from a crane after being intentionally injured and slashed open? its because the pod of dolphins will never leave an injured or wounded dolpin alone so it encourages the pod to hang around for easier slaughter.

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I wouldn't eat a dolphin. The debate over whether or not fish feel pain has been going on for a long time, science even argues with itself over this, only in the last few years have any scientist come anywhere near having any proof that what you see when you hook a fish in the eye is actually a reaction to pain. Some say it is, most say it isnt. There is much said about it on the internet, both sides of the issue. Fishing is not considered a blood sport, but a lot of fishermen do consider it to be a blood sport. But to me, even if they do feel pain, their lives and deaths are not as ghoulish and gory as the life of a cow or pig on it's way to mass production. Maybe I am saying I am a hypocryte, if you don't factor in my previous statement about the bible ( Jesus turned one fish into many and manna rained down from heaven to feed the multitudes) and what it means to me, then I am just a downright hypocryte. Oh well, I would rather be that than contibute to the mass production of beef and pork.

I love meat. I have some type of meat with every meal. There is nothing like a nice grilled steak or ribs. Any sort of meat is fine with me, just as long as it isn't raw.