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Dimension shift when you "change" a deja vu??

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posted on Mar, 1 2008 @ 09:46 PM
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Hi!

First please excuse my bad english.
Maybe you guys will think I'm crazy or paranoid, but maybe someone has a answer.

Some of you may know this. You dream a really REAL dream, wake up and forget the most of it. Then some days, weeks or even month later a situation happens, then you remember your dream, like: Damn I dreamed of that here right now.
But when this happens I can see how the dream will go on. But most of the time
that happend to me, I didn't do what the dream showed me. For example I dream of being in a store and somebody come up and ask me some. In my dream I talked with him, when it happend in reality I just walked away.

And everytime I do the opposite I start feeling really (and I mean really) bad, getting kind of dizzy for like 5 minutes and after that I got that feeling that something is totaly wrong here and that I don't belong in this place, even if I am at the some spot as before.

I understand if you tell me to see a doc. But maybe you know some!




posted on Mar, 1 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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Well the same thing happens to me. Where I dream, then forget, and then get hit by deja vu. However, I only get dizzy once I realize that I had dreamed the scene before.



posted on Mar, 1 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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I have had this happen to me several times. I even have what I call "stacking deja vu". Where while I am experiencing the deja vu, I have another occurrence, and another, and another. I have also had the dream version you mentioned. And I have acted differently then how I did in the dream (on one occasion) when I did I had the same dizzy feeling you described, so much so I had to sit down before I fell down.

I heard/read somewhere that deja vu is just your brain processing faster than normal, and you get the feeling that you have done something before. (note, it has been a long time since i saw/read that and I could have it wrong) Whether or not this is the case I do not know, or really care. I enjoy the feeling greatly, hence why I "stack" deja vu whenever I get the chance.



posted on Mar, 1 2008 @ 11:41 PM
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Does it go away when you say that this has happened before?



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Rumrunner
Does it go away when you say that this has happened before?


Umm, no last time I can remember I had a "stacking" (never heard that term, until now, but this was definitely stacking) Deja Vu I actually let my friends know, I was like holy sh**, guys I knew that was going to happen, lets see if it happens again, and I called what was going to happen etc, I believe it, it's just too real not to, tbh.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 12:52 AM
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It does not go away anymore. When I was younger (teenage years) it would dissipate quickly. Around 19 or 20 I had my first case of the "stacking" variety. Usually what happens is I experience the first one, and quickly identify why I am feeling the familiarity. Once I do this I can choose to either expand on it, creating another instance of the feeling, or do the opposite ceasing the experience.


Originally posted by S.O.U.P.
..."stacking" (never heard that term, until now, but this was definitely stacking)...


To my knowledge I coined the term, was the best word to describe the feeling.


Originally posted by S.O.U.P.
...guys I knew that was going to happen, lets see if it happens again, and I called what was going to happen etc...


That is exactly what I do, if there are others around. I have unnerved my mother and sister on several occasions. The first time I experienced it I was with a friend at a carnival, (same occurrence that caused the dizziness) I was telling him what people would be walking by and what they would be wearing. I even knew that one of the people we would see was going to be an old classmate from high school.

Of course, the brain records an incredible amount of information. I could have seen the classmate earlier in the day and stored that info without conscious knowledge. But like I said earlier, I am in it for the feeling not the truth. That is just a bonus.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 01:49 AM
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I know what youre talking about 'stacking' de ja vu. its like the realization that youre having de ja vu gives you it again, and so on and so on.
after many experiences like this, I have come to the presumption that we would feel this way all the time, except the mind keeps it from us, kind of like the idea of a soul drinking from the waters of forgetfulness before it enters a body, but sometimes we remember, for whatever reason.
I didnt put much spiritual thought into things until a dream i had when I was in 3rd grade came true 15 years later giving me the most intense de ja vu ever, it was nuts, smells, sounds, words, people. it was so strange because in 3rd grade, a dream about my older self just seemed abstract and i didnt know thats what it was until it happened. I know I dreamed it because it was one of those dreams you think about once in a while due to how strange it seemed.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 01:56 AM
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OP, sounds to me as if you are a clairvoyant dreamer and having conscious memory of your dream time. I cannot say if it actually shifts your dimensional reality into the vast strings of the multiverse, but hey, maybe, just maybe.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 04:04 AM
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HEy antar,

I also think that could have to do some with the string theory.

Let's say that the string (things) exist. Swinging and vibrating in diffrent "frequencies" and the possibility of mulitverse. (Even real smart people said that if the string theory exist, there is a great possibility of different dimension / mulitverse)
As soon as you do the opposite of that what your dream told you. Then it's like changing your future. Maybe this change is enough to create another frequence or different swinging of the strings and BAMM You just landed in a other dimension.

If this could be possible I wanna go back to my "dimension". I don't like it here!



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 08:50 AM
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I can't remember having one of my dreaming experiences come true, and god forbid they ever do
I have experienced deja vu very much and quite regularly, I suppose the visions I have are made unconsciously if that makes any sense, because only a few instances have I remembered seeing something before it happened. I guess that does go along with the scientific explanation somewhat. I think anyone who's experiencing this regularly should take notes each time they predict something or see a vision..



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 09:24 AM
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i always try and disuade the events of a deja vu occurance if i percieve its occurance and my being; i dunno why i jus do.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 03:14 PM
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i remember a deja vu i had while at high school when i was about 15,,i had the deja vu and knew exactly what was going to happen,,,there were 4 of us at the desk and my teacher said to me "can you do me a favour please?" and i finished her sentence,,,"you want me to go to the home economics base and get cottonwool" the teacher just stared at me with her mouth open,i told her i had a deja vu and knew what she was going to say,ive had many but that episode was one that did occur as i had seen it,unlike when you have a deja vu and events turn out different,,strange phenomenon



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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I honestly do not believe that this is the same dimension that I was originally born into. It was not through dejavu. It was something much similar however.
At some point you will have less and less time between your experience of the future and the dejavu. It will one day happen instantaneously and what you will experience will be unimaginable. This great mystery!



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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This is amazing! I've had the experience of having a dream, and then a few weeks or months later, suddenly I'm living the scene. Now I can kind of tell when a dream I have will result in a deja vu experience. For example, about two ago I had a really mundane dream about having a job in a local shop in my home town (where I wasn't living at the time) and having a conversation about music with two colleagues (who I didn't know in my life at that time). When I woke up, I just knew knew that it would happen sometime in the future (having already experienced the phenomenon).

Last summer I moved back into my home town and got a job in this shop, but at the time it didn't really register that it was from my dream. Then one day I was working and the song that we had discussed in my dream came on the radio and suddenly the whole dream came flooding back to me, and I was with the two colleagues from my dream (who I had never met in waking life before that summer). The deja vu hit me so hard I had to hold onto the counter not to fall down, and then one of my colleagues said the exact sentence that I knew from the dream he would, and the deja vu feeling jumped up a notch.

I haven't ever really told anyone about this phenomenon, but it happens frequently enough to really make me wonder what's going on. It's so cool to know that others have the same experiences! It seems that this is quite widespread then?

I also very frequently have deja vu where I don't remember having a dream about the situation before. Do you think these represents two different facets of the same phenomena, two totally separate phenomena, or exactly the same phenomenon (and sometimes I remember the dream and other times I don't)?

This is such a fascinating subject, I'd love to try and figure out what it all is!



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 04:27 PM
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ABSOLUTELY!!!! Let us go "home" Antar!

Do u have also that feeling that u do not belong here?



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 04:32 PM
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All of the deja vu i have experienced have not been from dreams - not sure where they come from,when it happens i just get the feeling that ive seen the situation before and i know whats going to happen in the next few seconds - i did read somewhere that its something to do with your brain processing events in a different way? Maybe we usually see events and then our brain processes what we are seeing,possibly deja vu could somehow be our brain processing events quicker than we are viewing them,,,i know that sounds silly,,lol,, just a though



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 04:46 PM
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Man, that's not a silly thought at all! That's an awesome idea - maybe the speed of thought isn't limited to the speed of the electrical impulses in our brain, and we get kind of a boost from somewhere, maybe alternate dimensions or something, but we think faster than our brains are actually working. Like watching something on fast forward.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 06:01 PM
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Wow! some great insights here and some that I hadn't heard of before. I have only had a few experiences of deja vu, but they are strange. There is an urge to change something, although by the time I have become aware that it is deja vu the episode finishes before I have time to change anything.

There must be a buffering of some kind where the brain processes an event and then you experience it. Our subjective world is behind the real world because of this delay in processing. Maybe a short occurs and we get to exprience it directly without it being processed/buffered hence that weird glow or feeling you often get with a deja vu.

I have dreams where I have deja vu about the dream. I can then choose whether to be a viewer and watch, or take part or jump to a different perspective and watch from there. Maybe not the same thing, but whose to say that when we think we are dreaming we are actually awake.



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by YarlanZey
There must be a buffering of some kind where the brain processes an event and then you experience it. Our subjective world is behind the real world because of this delay in processing. Maybe a short occurs and we get to exprience it directly without it being processed/buffered hence that weird glow or feeling you often get with a deja vu.


Man, this is such an awesome idea! That there is a time delay between events and our perception of them, but deja vu is somehow when our unconscious mind gets a direct, real-time perception of what's happening is such a cool thought. Although, I don't know if this would explain the phenomenon when there is a dream of a future event a significant amount of time before the deja vu.

I kind of subscribe to the theory that all time is actually one - everything has happened/is happening/will happen all at once, and it is only our minds that allow/force us to experience events as though they were actually a sequence. Maybe if this is true, Yarlan's idea could be expanded so that actually our minds are given access to a view of time as it actually is - so that it seems we're perceiving future events but actually our unconscious minds have glimpsed just one of the slides of sequence out of order or something like this. That might also help explain why this is connected so heavily to dreams as opposed to waking visions.

Maybe someone who is really adept or well-practised or naturally gifted can exert control of their unconscious minds so that they can perceive the artificial enforcement of sequence and choose which bit to look at? This would be prophecy or waking visions of the future, maybe?



posted on Mar, 2 2008 @ 07:59 PM
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Great subject. Since i was about 10 I've had both the normal deja-vu, and kind where I know that I actually dreamed of it. It's always within six months of having the dream I'll experience it. And the dreams are always in the middle of the night, not towards the morning when I'm waking. Those are the easiest dreams to remember, so the details are always a little foggy from the midde of the night dreams. Stacking deja-vu is a great term for what I always called "continuing deja-vu". When after you recongnize that it's familiar, it keeps going on to the point you know what's going to happen next. Why is it always the mundane though? Just conversations at work, or walking down the street, or chatting with friends, never big events, at least for me. I've also felt when the deva-vu is off, like it was supposed to be or could have been one way, but it actually happens slightly differently.



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