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Topic started on 1-3-2008 @ 01:50 PM by damaged petals
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Im pregnant and as worried as I am about bringing a child into this increasingly scary world, I also want absolutely to do right by her. So Im
wondering if any of you know more about new born vaccinations, which ones are mandatory. I know that some have been linked to causing autism or brain
damage in children, and even if it's a small percentage, it's not something im willing to risk. I myself will not be vaccinated for anything. So I
feel strange about allowing my future baby to be. Any thoughts and information on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
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reply posted on 1-3-2008 @ 02:11 PM by thetruth777
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I'm not sure about vaccines. Could people clarify the issue?
First, if the child is not vaccinated, he may, in the future, develop a terrible disease. Remember, when the first vaccine was use in the (18th?)
century, it wasn't for population control. And vaccines DO prevent disease, so I suggest vaccinating.
On the other hand, there is vaccine abuse by the Establishment. My family grew up in Russia (I'm not Commie), and they only had to take one vaccine
at a time. Here, they do 7 (!) in a single visit. And, according to Alex Jones, there is mercury in the vaccines. Also, some have cancer/AIDS.
I don't get it, if they wanted population control, can't they bann/mane unfordable certain vaccines, instead of putting mercury in them?
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reply posted on 1-3-2008 @ 02:31 PM by Roper
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Check with your state health Dept. or your Doc.
I think these shots are a good thing. YMMV
Roper
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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 12:03 PM by kattraxx
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www.immunizationinfo.org... A list of vaccines.... I believe you can search your state requirements for school entry....
Vaccines and the Diseases they Prevent
Anthrax
Diphtheria
Haemophilus Influenzae type b (Hib)
Hepatitis A
Hepatitis B
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Influenza
Lyme Disease
Measles
Meningococcal disease
Mumps
Pertussis (Whooping Cough)
Pneumococcal disease
Polio
Rabies
Rotavirus
Rubella
Shingles (Herpes Zoster)
Smallpox
Tetanus
Tuberculosis
Typhoid Fever
Varicella (Chickenpox)
Yellow Fever
I would suggest you do a lot of research on the subject online before you make any decisions.
And re: the mercury in vaccines, a known neurological toxin, keep in mind that whenever some kid breaks a mercury thermometer at school, they evacuate
the school, call in the Haz-Mat team to clean it up and generally freak out. Oh, and they also put mercury in your mouth, in fillings. But, I'm
sure it's okay, acceptable limits and all. I just never understood why they freak out more over mercury outside the body, than inside.
But like I said, research both sides of the issue; don't take anyone else's word for it when it comes to your kids.
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reply posted on 2-3-2008 @ 10:07 PM by tator3
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None are MANDATORY! You do not have to give any immunizations to your child.
Good info at this site, not to mention the info on Wavers for your state to opt out of immunizations and your child will still be able to attend
school and stuff.
www.nvic.org...
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reply posted on 3-3-2008 @ 02:37 AM by gluetrap
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I believe newborns are usually given a hepatitis vaccine pretty soon after birth and the gooey slimy vitamin K (I think) is smeared in their eyes.
Im a proponent of minimal vaccines and single vaccines.
You can in fact order preservative free vaccines and single vaccines...
I know they have single vaccines because I took my son to the regular doctor for his boosters and they were goint to give him 5 separate shots at
once...2 in one thigh and three in the other with a nurse at each leg.
rather than the all in one health department booster.
We opted to do two shots, then go back in a month later and do two more, then one more a month later.
The school was fine with that.
You can also wait a bit on some of the vaccines or spread them out a bit more,
Maternal antibodies from breast milk can also interfere with vaccines which is the reason so many boosters are given in the early years.
Find a doctor who practices a dual modality of conventional and holistic practices, DOs are often more willing to work with you on stuff like this
than MDs.
If you cant find a doctor in your area look up holistic Veterinarians and ask them for a reference to a human doctor...that worked for us.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 01:05 AM by damaged petals
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Hey guys thank you so much for your insight. This is something that my boyfriend and I want to be as informed as possible about. Im still researching
but the links and info you've given have been helpful for sure.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 01:16 AM by dAlen
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I have 4 kids.
When they are born there is a shot they want to give immediately - forgot which it is as my youngest is now 4. You can tell them no and they can only
argue with it, but it is your choice.
Then there are the MMR shots, I believe those were the ones that were linked to autism.
Funny thing is my brother-in-law, a biologist here in Hungary said there is nothing in the shots (besides dead bacteria, whatnot)...well, that may
have been years back in the country because I do know this...
When I was in the doctors office years back, they had a list of potential issues from the vaccinations for kids, and one of them was autism. (This was
at Emory in Atlanta.)
So seems my brother in law was not up to date or just had no clue. But again he is not involved with that line of work specifically.
Overall, it is your choice, you have a right to do as you see fit.
Dont let anyone, on either side pressure you, and dont make choices from fear.
Read, research, but make a decision on your momma instinct...
Peace
dAlen
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 01:22 AM by dAlen
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Originally posted by damaged petalsI myself will not be vaccinated for anything. So I feel strange about allowing my future baby to be.
Any thoughts and information on the subject would be greatly appreciated. 
"do to others as you would have them do to you" - sounds like your mind is made up.
It does seem strange to do the opposite for your own kid that you feel is harmful for yourself. You answered your own question.
Peace
dAlen
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 01:22 AM by FredT
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Just as a little sidebar the mercury based preservative has been out of all of the vaccines (Except some flu shots) for years.
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 01:43 AM by dAlen
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Originally posted by FredT
Just as a little sidebar the mercury based preservative has been out of all of the vaccines (Except some flu shots) for years. 
Really? Didnt realize that. This is what was blamed for autism?
I do remember, as I stated above, that I saw in the docs office a bit, long complicated chart in a cabinet with some info on the bottom that explained
all kind of this and thats and one actually said autism was a potential factor. (dont know if it was due to mercury or not)
Guess I should have ripped it off the wall and photocopied it, as later it seems that many people didnt believe this to be the case. But like I said
this was maybe 6 years ago.
Again, I wish I had that poster as certain people I know, who think they know, would be amazed. - Hey I didnt make the facts.
Point is, I would like to see their revamped poster of info.
Peace
dAlen
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 12:09 PM by damaged petals
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Originally posted by dAlen
"do to others as you would have them do to you" - sounds like your mind is made up.
It does seem strange to do the opposite for your own kid that you feel is harmful for yourself. You answered your own question. 
Well I know my body and when it's healthy, but im still learning about babies and what exactly they need. before a few months ago I knew almost
nothing about babies. I knew to change them if they smell bad, and hand them back to mom if they cry. THAT WAS ABOUt iT. haha..so now Ive got stacks
upon stacks of baby books and I feel like im cramming for the biggest test of my life.
Most articles I have read only say that MOST vaccines are mercury or ( Thimerosal--a preservative of mercury) free.
most...that's no bueno
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 12:13 PM by Pellevoisin
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You may wish to find a midwife and give birth to your child at home.
Things are done to newborns in hospital that parents never know about.
Blessings on you and the wee child!
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reply posted on 5-3-2008 @ 12:40 PM by damaged petals
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Oh my God I feared as much...but I have a condition that, unless it corrects itself before the due date, will force me to have a c secton.
I know this is a little off topic, and I don't know if this is something Drs have started to do or will do, but what if they put a chip in my baby?
or in me? I hate going to the drs because the smallest incision is all that's needed.
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reply posted on 6-3-2008 @ 03:55 AM by LovingSoul
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Remember that you can debate all the vaccinations and "what ifs" until the cows come home but all that does is stress you out which is harmful to
your baby. So, do the research and make an informed decision but try not to be too paranoid. I know its really difficult because that little person
is depending on you 100% but the stress of paranoia will do more harm than good.
I myself am very ANTI vaccinations but, like a previous poster said, use your mommy instinct and all will be well.
Congrats to you and the father-to-be on this very joyous occasion!!
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