Motivational Coaching Company Accused of Waterboarding an Employee

Motivational Coaching Company Accused of Waterboarding an Employee

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I can't believe this actually happened. Amidst all of the speculation of waterboarding done at Gitmo. what the hell was this guy thinking? Not a very good motivational tool IMO. I am sure this isn't going to help this Coaching Company bring in new business. People are going to be very hesitant to have their employees go to these "training" classes. It is just as stupid for the employee to volunteer to go through the waterboarding. After he was explained what was involved, how could you want to do this? All parties in this case are idiots.

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Well, waterboarding must not be so bad after all if they're using it as a motivational training tool. Where can I sign up for simulated drowning?

In a perfect corporate world, every employee would be as desperate as these bleating sods to keep their jobs.

Talk about living on your knees. I'd rather eat out of a dumpster. What ever happened to the "disgruntled employees"?

Unreal. Just when you think you've heard it all. Shows there are some true whacko's out there. Perhaps his defense will be, "Prosper Inc. doesn't torture". Of course if it went to the supreme court, he'd probably get off anyway. lol

reply to post by jackinthebox

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Hey jack. How are ya? Staying warm in hudson valley I hope. Cold as hell here in Rochester.
Yeah, makes ya wonder when the next amusement park ride will be opening up with this name. Ya know, maybe if people did get a taste of what it is like, they would understand what is really happening to our detainees. Pretty unbelievable story. Sell, Sell, Sell!!!!!!!!!

DD: I like that defense! We don't torture....LOL. You're right, they will get off I'm sure. At worst, this guy will lose his job.

[edit on 3/1/2008 by palehorse23]

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The thing is with this private-sector waterboarding, they will actually have less culpability, since no one was "forced" to be there. Kind of like warrantless bag searches. No one makes a peep about it when a private guard searches your bag coming or going from a building, but when the cops do it in the subway, the ACLU takes notice.

I DO NOT endorse warrantless searches. I just want to make that clear. Just trying to point out how one day the corporate world is doing it, no one can say anything. The next time, it's being done in public, somebody DOES say something, and corporate America lobbies the complaint into the ground.

Side note: Warmed up a little out here today. Still some snow squalls whipping through though. Nice little storm last night.

Good ta see ya again.

Yeah i don't see anything wrong with the waterboarding if he was not in fear of losing his job. I guess its all in how it was played out . If it was a demonstration and he volunteered. Then no real harm was done.
I will read the rest of the article i guess lol

If they were compliant then no harm done. I suppose . If it was a form of punishment or something like that . I would definitely think he should be held on felony assault charges.

[edit on 1-3-2008 by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR]

Hi PaleHorse,
I have a few problems with this article.

First and foremost, I believe that it is very unlikely that the employee (implied he was the manager) was actually waterboarded in the sense of a Gitmo or other detention facility inmate. If that were the case, then I would assume he would have been shackled and forced through the ordeal. In a sense to call some motivational exercise, regardless of how misguided, "waterboarding", implying that it was equivalent to torture, trivializes the actual practice of torture through waterboarding.

Second, what employee doesn't realize that they can say "no"? If he refused and was fired, then he could have sued. Once he agrees, it seems suing for the exercise is a little much. Of course, I don't know the specifics, maybe he was shackled for days, intimidated and scared enough to believe that the motivational company would truly let him drown, and then waterboarded while his employees watched.

Finally, it amazes me that the motivational company wouldn't have realized these actions could result in a lawsuit. They must really have thought that their actions weren't that egregious.

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You make a great point. This will not raise near the amount of attention as the "real deal". But nonetheless, still an idiotic idea. And, as you say, they were not forced to be there. It was their own stupidity that put them at risk.
I do not know what to expect with this lawsuit. Ya never know these days. The guy could end up a millionaire.

They were snapped up by motivational course providers

Edit: waterbording is torture and I should probably not make light of such issues - any attempt to torture my self in such circumstances would result in swift physical action followed by lengthy and profitable legal action

[edit on 1/3/2008 by Now_Then]

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The man said other employees held him down during the water "treatment". I think he's in the best position to define his ordeal.

Just saying no may not have been an option for him. He probably has a wife and a litter of kids to support and a mortgage, etc. Sure he can say no, get fired and sue... but what will they live on while his case crawls through the court system?

This case is a good example of how the rot at the top trickles down.

I say if there waw no harm intended then all of the owners and executives of the company should be treated to the same behavior for one months time. Let's see how they like it.

If they refuse the waterboarding, their only other option shall be a swift strong boot to the head.