Originally posted by Bigwhammy
This was before they disobeyed God and he cursed the ground.
Where does it say in Genesis that because they disobeyed God, they no longer had access to all seed bearing plants to use? No where.
17 To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,'
"Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat of it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
Right. This just means God made it more painful for Eve to have babies, and made it harder for Adam to reap crops from the Earth. This means that
while Adam obviously still has access to all seed bearing plants, otherwise he could not work the ground to begin with, thus it being made more
difficult by God
, it's just now become more difficult, requiring more effort and time, to reap your harvests. But you shall still reap your
harvests. And theres nothing in this verse that leds me or anyone else to believe for one second that God revoked the gift of permission to use all
seed bearing plants to mankind, in fact, it supports the fact that God still allowed the plants, because it mentions Adam growing them, how it will be
more difficult now.
On the subject of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, some in the Rastafarian sect believe that the tree of knowledge was actually Cannabis, and
that they ate of the buds, becoming chastised by God. This is why they burn the plant, a symbolic burning of the tree of knowledge, so as to sacrifice
the tree to God, to say .. my ancestors disobeyed you by eating of this tree therefore I shall burn it to the ground!
What about the seed bearing plant the Rosary Pea (also called castor bean)?
Is it ok to eat ? Keep in mind that one seed is fatal
Your logic sounds good on the surface. It doesn't really hold up.
You do not have to use what you are given, or find. God has given us all seed bearing plants to use, but we dont have to use them all. And Castor
Beans are useful, just not to consume, they are made into something, I forget exactly what that is right now, but indeed mankind uses it. Another
example which backs up my argument, you're making me look good here.
Medicine does wonderful things for mankind, but it also does horrible things. This thread is about the Bibles teaching. So far I haven't seen
a shred of evidence for good drug use.
I totally wholeheartedly agree 100%. I've had bad experiences with medicines, and doctors, and so has my family. I've seen so much pain and
suffering in my life and others' that I love caused by pharmaceutical medications that it is unbelievable. What's worse, the Doctors who prescribe
it half the time don't even know all that they should, and fail to tell you that using this medication regularly will make it impossible to quit
without slowly weening off, which in itself is a number of weeks of absolute hell
, most medications anyways. I'm talking psychoactive
compounds.. anti-depressants, anti-anxiety agents, pain medications, sedatives, etc.
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