Originally posted by polomontana
Fact 1:
Your Energy survives death.
Survive is not the correct term, if you mean energy continues to exist in various forms then ok?
Fact 2:
Every energy state you have survives death. Your emotions, thoughts and actions.
Where do you get this idea? We've seen no evidence for it and you have yet to explain either the type of energy or how it retains 'states' as you
call them?
Fact 3:
Your emotions, actions and thoughts survive death in a disembodied energy state.
Facts 1 and 2 makes fact 3 a true statement.
Not if 'Fact 1" has been stated wrongly from the start and 'Fact 2' is not even a fact and has yet to be properly explained or the info sourced to
a reputable scientific paper, which I doubt you could provide anyway considering you've been only using pseudoscience so far.
The thing is you have to let go of your perception of reality from the perspective of the decohered vessel that you occupy.
While your in a decohered vessel (human body) you see things from the cave of your immediate reality. This is why Plato said the road to
enlightenment is so hard because you think the cave is all that there is.
This is just one reality in a infinite number of realities.
In the body your conscious of things because of decoherence. When you die you are more aware because you are not bound by perception of the material
body in the reality you live in. This is why people who have near death experiences say they become more aware.
Material body (consciousness) Disembodied energy (awareness).
Huh, your saying we have to give up science and reality to understand? that sounds like your talking imagination to me!
We see examples of awareness in scientific experiments. Look at the double slit experiment. The sub atomic particle is "aware" if the measuring
device is turned on or off.
Im pretty sure that’s a common misconception, to measure you have to interact and in doing so you affect the outcome, either way no scientist has
claimed subatomic particles are aware as you have.
Look at non locality. Two sub atomic particles can be on each side of the earth. If you measure one the other one will respond accordingly.
Einstein called it spooky action at a distance.
There's one awareness throughout the universe that becomes conscious because of decoherence. When you die and you are no longer in a decohered state
then you return to awareness.
Everthing you do in the material body returns to awareness when you die. Your emotions, thoughts and actions are measured energy states that survive
death.
You claim a lot of things that are either unknown or simply untrue, if you wish to discuss such things in a philosophical sense then do but do it in
another part of the forum and don't claim anything we don't know for a fact as fact, that's the trouble, some can't just be happy in whatever
fantastical beliefs they have, they have to make others believe or try and give their ideas more worth by claiming they're fact and can be explained
by science.
[edit on 8/3/08 by just theory]
