Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by UFOabducteebe
The mechanics of moving large blocks is well-known, and fantastically simple. First you'll have to show how it's rationally impossible for those
techniques to have been used, then we can start talking about magnets and Tesla and other stuff.
BTW - Tesla's fantastic inventions were not recorded, only Tesla talking about them. They could just be hoaxes, which Occam's Razor suggests we
believe instead of them actually existing. I know he's a romantic figure to those who believe in esoteric technical knowledge existing, but it's a
shame to spurn the scientific method to believe in something that's not necessarily true, than to adopt the scientific method and know for
certain.
So yeah, my money's on him using wood, or winches, or labourers, or anything that doesn't demand people re-write the entire history of human
learning and understanding, without any evidence supporting it. Call me crazy, but I like my science rigorous, not fluffy.
but it's not rationally impossible, with or without occams razor, with or without science, egyptians may well have used wally wallingtons method, in
fact as a rationalist myself, I'm sure many did.
Your argument is persuasive but i put forward the notion, that occams razor, as it is defined, does not disprove, or conclude the material evidence of
this
mystery . Rationalism hasn't solved this mystery yet. And although I believe the razor has it's place, its blade is not as razor sharp
as we might presume, because thats what occams razor is, it's an intelligent assumption , like all other science, but the similarity ends there -
science actually must test hypothesis.
I maintain the notion that Occams' Hypothesis does not rationally explain this problem, it explains it away.
How is that helpful? It would be simple for me to shave with a razor, it does not mean i cannot do the same job better with a laser, that would make
me however very stupid - or you for expecting the least of me - or presuming the best of you - perhaps this is why things like this remain a mystery??
As is evidenced, there is more than just technological proficiency at work in many of these cultures, but an alchemical transformation of thinking.
Perhaps it really does take one to know one ;]
It's true, i'm not a big fan of occams razor
hehe.. perhaps the real step in debunking this is
testing both hypothesis - not just one
way it can be done, but finding all ways. Surely then you could call it science ;]
my 2 cents
Abductee
ps: one thing, you wouldn't need to rewrite history to make sense of people like tesla's work,
you'd have to be proficient enough to read the
ancient texts multilingual-ly and study documented history to put it together - it is somewhat met with irony that tesla was one of the few
prodigies to ever live capable of such a thing, and it indeed shown, and still does in his inventions. Tesla, if a magician, was a technical one - and
what is magic but technology and psychology we do not understand.
Indeed, many of tesla's electronic patents are still UNKNOWN as to how they
function . that - if a con, is something that should make the likes of people like billy meier blush, if people gave tesla the attention that
these modern new age kooks got - we might not wonder wtf his devices do, to this day
Documented history, of course, is not to be relied upon, it is but the first thing a historian is taught at school.. afterall, that is why many of the
good books are in so many different languages. Some barriers exist for a reason - others are merely co-incidental. To concentrate on that which is
simple is to ignore all that could be complicated, my dear friend we must ask if this is science at all.. at least no better than assumption - indeed
all that was improved by occam, was odds. not sense!!!
[edit on 27-12-2009 by UFOabducteebe]
