Originally posted by dAlen
See what you may not realize is that each denomination and then group (jew who is the root of Christianity) believes differently. Trust me on this, or
look it up yourself if you want.
I have said many a time, but in mainstream, evangelical Christianity, 3 of its main groups dont even agree on then tenets of salvation
The Presbyterians, Southern Baptist, & Pentecostal.
If you are in one of the groups, and you are wrong according to the others, you will wind up in hell. Now how is that for consistency on the main
Very impressive resume, dAlen. But I submit to you that perhaps you are looking at the differences through physical eyes.
A bull cannot see colors, only black and white shades of gray. Their eyes do not contain the needed sensors to differentiate between frequencies of
light. Yet bulls are attracted to vivid colors. Bullfighters traditionally use a bright red cloth to attract them. So while bulls cannot see red, they
no doubt have some knowledge that color exists. But that knowledge without the ability to clearly sense means that a bull cannot tell what color it is
they are seeing, only that a vivid color is there.
As with our faith, we are unable to clearly see spirits, yet we do have some knowledge of them. While many psychics have been proven as frauds, a
minority have not been disproved, despite repeated attempts. Dare we, here on ATS, demand that life on other worlds does not exist? I think not. Yet I
have never seen an alien. I challenge you to explain the plethora of anecdotal tales of forewarnings from those who avoided catastrophe by not getting
on the plane, not taking the trip, etc. Coincidence? Possible, but I feel uncomfortable attributing so much to pure chance. Perhaps if the number of
these were far fewer...
Now imagine, if you will, three bulls looking at a cloth and discussing the color of it. One demands that it is red, another yellow, and a third,
bright green. Perhaps one of them is right, perhaps not. But all are right that it is a color, just not on which color it is.
As humans in a fleshly body, we, too, tend to argue on those things that we perceive only dimly. All are right in some respect (well, we're
discussing people here, so maybe most are right), but none have perfect knowledge. And humans have the habit of arrogance, as anyone who watches the
actions of others will soon see clearly. Add the two together and you have religious denominations.
I was raised a strict Southern Baptist. I now attend a Pentecostal church whenever life allows me to. I am neither. I am a Christian. I believe what
the Bible says, in it's full divinely-inspired context. And though that belief is now through faith, that wasn't always the case. I proved the Word
to myself, on numerous occasions, usually when I was trying to disprove it to remove uncomfortable nagging from my conscience. Now that it is proven
to me, I need nothing else to verify it.
But I fear I am the exception in this. To many who are trying to understand the physical and the spiritual simultaneously, the two seem distinct and
contradictory. Thusly, they tend to believe the things that appear to them to be 'logical'. Witness the Islamic belief that martyrs receive virgins
for their death. This would be torture; all these women and no physical body? I shudder at the thought. Does that mean they must be wrong in all their
beliefs? No, it simply means that in an attempt to understand that which they cannot see clearly, they use the things they can see clearly. I think we
all do that from time to time.
All this is to say that, even with the best, most impressive list of accomplishments in 'religion', one must understand that the main aspect is
spiritual, not physical, and therefore subject to laws which may or may not be those taught in seminaries and synagogues(sp?). Jesus said "give unto
Caesar that which is Caesar's, and unto God that which is God's". Somehow I think He was speaking of more than the simple coin he was holding at