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Originally posted by Osiris1953
Which of the below does not describe God?
Omniscient
or
Omnibenevolent
or
Omnipotent
I'll give the reasoning behind the question after you have answered.
Originally posted by Lonte
Israel Jews can't love their neighbour Palestine, can they?
Originally posted by Lonte
If you believe in your god just believe it, why you call yourself christian?
Originally posted by Lonte
You want to be different,
Originally posted by Lonte
and you want people to join you?
Originally posted by Lonte
You are strong or you are weak?
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
And what about Ghosts? Is there room for ghosts in Christianity?
Of course! At least one.
Regarding others than that one, it seems there are two different kinds of ghost encounters:
+ Ghosts that are not aware of our existance. They seem to be in 're-play' mode of a history (usually tragic). For these, I'd like the reader to look up and see photos/videos of Heat Signatures. Interesting thing about a heat signature camera, after someone leaves the room, there image is still there. Why is this? Perhaps physics has a similar anomaly for people who have lived in the past.
+ Ghosts that are actively trying to interact with people. These ghosts seem polarized either very positive or very negative. One might even say angels or demons. Although it may be confusing at times, I haven't heard any 'neutral' experiences with them (or experiences that turned out to be neutral)
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
I thought it was heaven, hell or purgatory (which at one point I heard was somewhere between Pluto and Neptune)?
That's where a soul goes...but heat signatures? Maybe light signatures? We know demons and angels aren't confined to heaven and hell.
Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Does Jesus allow ghosts to just wander around willy nilly?
Big doubts on the willy nilly. I haven't find anything on creation that fits the description of purposeless.
Originally posted by sizzle
I heard an interesting sermon on ghosts once. Of course, you can take it or leave it; but I found it very possible in explaining a lot of things.
The pastor said that he believed that ghosts were familiar spirits and not the spirit or ghost of a departed person.
Originally posted by sizzle
Explanation: A familiar spirit is similar to a guardian angel in essence that it is attached to a human being through out his/her lifetime. It knows everything about that person. Every intimate and personal detail.
That is why when a seance is performed for friends and family members, and that spirit can answer things that only that departed person would have known.
Originally posted by sizzle
The way that I read the Bible, is that once we die, we die. We do not hang around and haunt houses and family members. Just something to think about.
According to The Bible record, sorcerers, or necromancers, who claimed the ability to contact the dead were said to have a "familiar spirit." The word "familiar" in this usage is derived from the Latin word familiaris, meaning a "household servant," and was intended to imply that they had spirits as their servants, ready to obey their commands, which for some of them may have been partly true - but the spirits were demons. The rest, like the many carnival "mediums" today, either had hidden human (or in modern times, electronic) assistants, or were skilled ventriloquists who could fake the sound of a voice coming from the ground, or from "thin air."
www.keyway.ca...
The Old Testament Hebrew word for those with familiar spirits meant a bottle, since they were regarded as a vessel for the inspiring demon. The New Testament Greek word was equivalent in meaning, and whether they were fakers, or actually possessed by a spirit, the people of God were to have absolutely nothing to do with them.
"Do not turn to mediums or wizards; do not seek them out, to be defiled by them." (Leviticus 19:31 RSV)
"There shall not be found among you any one who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, any one who practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For whoever does these things is an abomination to The Lord; and because of these abominable practices The Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before The Lord your God." (Deuteronomy 18:10-13 RSV)
Fact Finder: Did the apostle Paul have an encounter with someone who actually had a "familiar spirit"?
Acts 16:16-18
Originally posted by Osiris1953
Thank you for your response. I think that is the only answer that does not require me to explain anything. I respect you and your beliefs, and since you can also see that describing god as omnibenevolent would be a misnomer, there is no need for me to explain the reasoning behind the question. Good job.
Originally posted by jimbo999
Originally posted by Nohup
Originally posted by saint4God
By request from a friend, I'm opening this thread to give an opportunity for anyone to ask any questions of me as a believer.
I would, but unfortunately as a Christian believer, all of your answers are going to be perfectly predictable and unoriginal. A person might as well ask a question to a tree or a brick wall. No new or interesting information is likely to be exchanged, and in the end nothing will be accomplished. Thank you, but I'll pass.
Heh! I couldn't have said it better myself. How incredibly patronizing to assume that just because you're a christian you somehow know more than other people here. I would kindly suggest that if anything, it's probably the other way around; you people need to start peeling the blinders off your eyes and give the sermonizing a rest. No-one is really that interested.
J.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by saint4God
Originally posted by sizzle
But I would think that it ought to fit in the religious section, somewhere.
"I put it in paranormal since that's where this idea came from and we can talk about some more shade of grey topics like ghosts perhaps. The "dunking booth" syndrome may be lower. We'll see!" Saint4God
Originally posted by sizzle
Maybe I should have been more clear. I didn't mean for you to portray yourself as the ultimate authority, but I thought that maybe, once it was opened; Many could give their opinions.
"I hope so. Dunno if I have the energy or ability to run solo." Sain4God
"I have a feeling that many would join in to assist.
I will certainly be there for support. Since I am seeking,
I may not have much to contribute in assistance.
But I will have some questions." Sizzle
home.mchsi.com...
Necromancy, a supposed communication with the dead, is a facet of the familiar spirit's operation. Necromancy is an outright deception. Rather than communicating with a particular person, the medium is in contact with a spirit which is familiar with that dead person. The spirit is able to give information and produce manifestations which lead the necromancer to suppose that he has contacted the spirit of a certain dead person.
Originally posted by saint4God
I don't think there's much denial from Christians that Ouiji boards work. The debate usually comes into what it was that was summoned. My friend's brother stated the question asked was "Are you Satan?" to which the reply was "yes", before the board had taken flight.
Originally posted by jimbo999
YAWN....wow, this is still going on huh?
So - since when did a christian consider the 'paranormal' anything other than the 'work of Satan' exactly? Has there been some kind of metaphorical shift in christian theology of recent times? Or has the OP suddenly come into a new understanding of biblical texts? One that is apparently unavailable to other christians worldwide?
Inquiring minds want to know!
And if not - just WHAT does this whole shebang have to do with 'Paranormal Studies' exactly??? Pray tell?
J.
Originally posted by jimbo999
YAWN....wow, this is still going on huh?
So - since when did a christian consider the 'paranormal' anything other than the 'work of Satan' exactly?